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    What should we expect in 2012?

    What should we expect in 2012?
    Wednesday, April 8, 2009

    Thousands of years ago mankind had achieved a high level of technological development. They understand the laws of nature better than we do. They explored Antarctica and spent the entire world map. They built monuments that we even with the most modern appliances can not fake.

    When disaster hit in the form of a global disaster. They expected it. The disaster was so large in scope that most people died and many extinct species. The people who were lucky enough to survive were forced to live like animals while the Earth is restored. Faded memories and knowledge disappeared. Humanity had to start again from the beginning. She returned to the pagan religion and a simple life. There were people who survived and were able to remember things as more advanced techniques and ideas that others had forgotten. They were those who would take on future generations to highlight the next disaster. In the knowledge that it would take perhaps 10,000 years, they had to take into account the fact that mankind in the year 2012, perhaps a different language spoke, another religion would have an entirely different system of numbers to use. If they were after us instructions about how to survive, they must do so securely that the ravages of time would pass. Moreover, they had to be encrypted so that any civilization would be able to translate them. Some modern people with different backgrounds and disciplines, working to translate their legacy.

    We are able to clone people, for God to monkeys. Regardless of the ethics and laws will happen, because scientists are able to do something we have never able to offer resistance to the temptation, which lie in their nature. On the other hand, however, that if there is not enough evidence to issue to solve, as none of their predecessors, the preparatory work done, then steps on to something simpler. Such unsolved mysteries are mostly of historical nature, our scientists have been unable to face the trials and they have chosen not to make unscientific conjecture. These tasks are by definition independent researchers entrusts the untrained pseudo-scientists, the men and women with imagination, daring and elegant. The rebels.

    This article cites some of these mysteries to. They are all stories about the possibility of a disaster of global magnitude that perhaps around the corner to wait.

    Many issues in the endless debate. Is the Sphinx 5,000 and 12,000 years old? Did the Biblical flood actually occurred? And if so, it was local or global? Does the modern man once lived in the oceans? How is it that ancient civilizations who lived separately from each other were able to gigantic rock masses move?



    We are the ideas of some great thinkers who still regarded by the establishment ignored. The idea of the shift of the poles had the approval of Einstein, the existence of Atlantis was described by Plato and world disasters were mentioned by Darwin.

    Similarly, we see evidence that the orthodox science ignored. Evidence not fit within the established systems. Objects show that 100,000 or even millions of years ago a human civilization existed. There is evidence for a polar shift some 12,000 years ago. There is also evidence that strangely absent, as the missing links of evolution.

    While these issues are connected, you get new information on mythical creatures and space rays. And I will explain how a worldwide network of monuments built to warn against our destruction. Hopefully these ideas will be enough debates cause the things that we cherish, and the species that we are still long, long will be.

    Will the world perish in 2012? No, certainly not. Will there be a major disaster occur in 2012? Possible.

    Although this article focuses on a possible global catastrophe on an arbitrary date in our near future, there are three powerful arguments that the date should be December 21, 2012. I will let you see below, not as collateral, but as possibilities worth to consider.

    1. The calendar of the Maya

    The Maya populated an area that extended over southern Mexico, Guatemala and Belize. the empire was between the third and the tenth century at its height but by 1200, the empire collapsed because of reasons we can only guess. When the Spanish conquistadors arrived, descendants still lived in the area. They still spoke the old language but were not aware of the cities that their ancestors had built.

    It was only at the end of the 18th century that researchers the dense Guatemalan rainforest examined and plazas, monoliths, temples and pyramids decorating with pictures and hieroglyphics discovered. The ancient Maya have historical archives made, using, among other phonetic elements. Their writings are still valid and can be found on stone monuments in which common events, calendars and astronomical knowledge is recorded.

    The Spanish conquest

    Diego de Landa was a Spanish priest who visited Mexico for humanitarian reasons. He became in 1561 the governor of Yucatan, and he was notorious for its destruction of precious Mayan documents and art objects.

    Although Landa was greatly interested in the Maya culture, he hated some of their practices and especially the sacrifices of people. In July 1562 there was evidence found in a cave for the sacrifice of people, and in a fit of religious justice Landa decreed the destruction of 5000 idolatrous images. He decided that their writings the work of the devil, and he ensured that they were burned, three books have survived destruction. The result was that most of the knowledge and history of the Maya disappeared.



    Despite his actions, we are also grateful Landa. He wrote an intelligent book about the life and faith of the Maya, Relación de las cosas the Yucatán (1566), which remains the classic description of the Maya civilization. This book, which was printed only in 1864, provided a phonetic alphabet that made it possible to roughly one third of the remaining Mayan hieroglyphics to decipher.

    The main book that survived the destruction is now called Dresden Codex, named after the city where it is saved. It is a strange book, filled with hieroglyphics, which no one understood until 1880. Förstemann Ernst, a German scholar who worked for the same Dresdener library, succeeded to the code of the Maya calendar crack. This made it possible for other scholars to the many date - Maya inscriptions on buildings and objects to translate.

    He discovered that the Codex contained detailed astrological tables. The Mayans had calculated the year as 365.2420 days, which is more accurate than the calendar we use now. Figures provided by the Mayan astronomers used the solar gain, the path of the planets in our solar system, the cycles of Venus and Mars and other celestial phenomena to predict.

    Other information we now have is from the Popol Vuh and the Chilam Balaam, books written shortly after the arrival of the Spaniards. The knowledge that we find in these writings shows, combined with the discovery of mysterious pyramids, the Maya had an intelligence equivalent to that of the Greeks and the Egyptians.

    The life of the Maya revolved around their conception of time. The priests were civil, agricultural and religious matters consulted and their opinion was derived from the declaration of holy calendars. Time was a major factor that the children even got the name of the day they were born.

    The Maya used only three characters for their arithmetic operations: a shell-shaped sign for zero, one point for one and a dash of five to zero to 19 units of it. The number 13 for example, was recorded as three points and two stripes.

    Zero was an advanced concept in those days and even the Romans were not the existence thereof. Yet the Maya felt at ease with the use of this unit and using the shell as a symbol, a polygonal object that displays an abstract concept that gives. The Maya also used metrical calculation which is very smart for a civilization that have not even used the wheel.

    Although they were available on many types of calendars, they gave the course of time in three parallel cycles.

    The first is the sacred calendar known as the Tzolkin. These were the numbers 1 to 13 with a sequence of 20 day-names. It worked in a similar way as our days of the week and their date within each Monday They had, for example 5-Chikchan (like our Sunday the fifth) followed by 6-Kimi (as we have the sixth Monday). After 260 days was the same combination of numbers and back and started the calendar again. Their use of the twintigtallige system probably had to do with fingers and toes, while the 13 beautifully adapted to the growth phase of the moon was not visible on new moon and two full days at the end making it appears as if the moon a growing cycle of 13 days. Alternatively, we can argue that the length of the Tzolkin related to pregnancy time of humans (273 days). It is suggested that 260 days is between a woman's pregnancy, and the actual birth.



    The second is the agricultural calendar known as the haab. This consisted of 18 months of 20 days. An addition of an extra month of 5 days (a period of understanding and accident with the name Uayeb) gives us 365 days (one year) The main purpose of this calendar was the track of the seasons, because seasonal and solar events each year around the same time took place. The Maya were aware of the annual quarter day difference, but it is not known whether they have done something here.

    These two independently running calendars each other started every 260 and 360 +5 days. She did all 52 years together

    "The Tzolkin and haab walked side by side, together as interlocking gear members to return to the count to a desired date, the 52 years, or 18,980 days coincide (365 x 52 as well as 260 x 73 = 18,980). In other words the Tzolkin made 73 revolutions and 52 haab so every 52 calendar years of 365 days out on the same day. A complete date in this 52-year cycle would look like for example, 2 1k 0 Pop (2 1 k is the position of the day in the Tzolkin, 0 Pop the position of the day in the haab). There were over 52 years before another 2 1k 0 Pop was.

    We thought that the world at the end of a 52-year cycle would be lost. Around this time, all fires extinguished, pregnant women were imprisoned to prevent them in wild animals would change, children were pinched to ensure that they fell asleep and mice change and all pots were broken in preparation for the end of the world. If the gods, however behaagde to humanity a new period of 52 years give a night ceremony was held where the people the priests by the darkness followed. They walked on a path to the top of an extinguished volcano that style from the soil around rice Ixtapalapa. There, with all eyes focused on the stars, waiting for the passage of the Pleiades as the survival of the world for a period of 52 years out. If the exact time was reached was quickly brought human sacrifice, we gave a cut in the chest and took the still beating heart out. The bloody chamber the priests placed a flame that then the people with torches on the lake to the temple of Tenochititlan was worn. From there, the fire spread over the remaining villages. This was known as the Ceremony of the New Fire, in a certain way, this way recognized by all Central Americans.

    This is very similar to the feeling that many Christians had at the end of the millennium.

    Our modern Western calendar was first introduced in 1582. It was based on the Gregorian calendar, which the orbit of the Earth calculated at 365.25 days. This was 0.0003 days per year too much, but still exceptionally accurate for scientists 400 years ago.




    The calendars of the Maya were derived from those of their parents, the Olmeken, whose civilization dates back some 3,000 years. Without the tools of 16th century Europe, the Middle Americans succeeded to a solar year to determine 365.2420 days, just 0.0002 days short. Much more precise and much earlier than the Europeans.

    The long count

    The Maya date uses three calendars. The third calendar, known as the "long count", is an ongoing report of days about 5000 years ago begins. The current Long Count began in 3114 BC and will soon end.

    A typical Mayan date was as follows:

    12.18.16.2.6, 3 Cimi 4 Zotz

    4 Zotz is the date of the haab.

    3 Cimi is the Tzolkin date.

    12.18.16.2.6 the date of the Long Count.

    The basic unit is the "kin" (day) and in the last component of the Long Count will be displayed. From right to left, the other components:

    Unial .......... 1 unial = 20 kin = 20 days

    Tun ............ 1 tun = 18 unial = 360 days = approximately 1 year

    Katun ......... 1 Katun = 20 tun = 7,200 days = 20 years

    Baktun ........ 1 baktun = 20 Katun = 144,000 days = about 394 years

    The kin, tun and Katun are numbered from 0 to 19.

    The unial are numbered from 0 to 17.

    The baktun are numbered from 1 to 13.

    The Long Count is a large cycle of 13 baktuns (roughly 5126 years) in which 13 suspected growth of the moon reflects. The current cycle began on 13.0.0.0.0 4 Ahau 8 Cumku which corresponds to 13 August in the year 3114 BC.

    In the mythology of the Maya Long Count each represents an era when the world try to gods and serving pieces to create creatures.

    In the First Age, the earth with vegetation and living creatures. Unfortunately, the birds and animals unable to honor the gods and thus to prove they were destroyed. In the Second and Third Age created the gods from mud and wood man, but they succeeded even in the satisfaction of the gods and they were destroyed. We are currently in the fourth and last era, the era of the fully functional, modern humans. Is it possible that these periods refer to evolutionary change? If so, what should we then wait for December 21, 2012?



    2. Fractal time and the I Ching

    10,000 years ago humans began with domestication of plants and animals.

    500 years ago the printing press was invented.

    100 years ago we started with cars to drive.

    50 years ago we found the computer.

    30 years ago we landed on the Monday

    The speed of change is high. Population, computer power, speed of transport, the amount of information available and most other things people of war, everything seems to go one speed. The speed with which everything grows, it continues to increase. We are a part of that, the young among us find the most normal thing in the world, older people give comments on it go is generally good with them. But if the old King Arthur to modern New York could transport it would be gone in an attempt to understand everything. Can all this come to a halt, slow or reverse. No, because that is not in our nature.

    Things are at an increasing pace to change. Every 18 months the ability of the computer. Soon they will be smarter than us. We are on the border of the cloning of human beings and we are on the verge of nanotechnology to use mini-machines the size of an atom to make. Perhaps there will be a time of change so fast that it will appear that only changes are. Several scholars have tried to resolve this question of infinity to calculate. They came out on dates that are between 2010 and 2050. These are times that many of us first. Maybe that date is on December 22, 2012. Etnobotanisten and fractal time experts Terrence and Dennis McKenna believe it. They present their findings in their book Invisible Landscape, Mind Hallucinogens and the I Ching. (1993).

    They began studying the I Ching from 64 hexagrammen or 6-lijnige figures exist. It struck them that 6 x 64 is 384. 384 is extremely close to the number of days in 13 months Monday (29.5306 x 13 = 383.8978) and maybe it is true that we the I Ching originally an ancient Chinese calendar. Further multiplications have an astronomical significance:

    1 day x 64 x 6 = 384 days = 13 months Monday

    384 days x 64 = 67 years, 104.25 days = 6 minor sunspot cycles every 11.2 years

    67 and 104.25 days x 64 = 4306 + y = 2 Zodiac eras

    4306 + years = 25,836 x 6 years = 1 monitoring zonnewendes



    The McKenna brothers came in 2012 as the end date by using fractals. Starting from a table of differences between one hexagram and the other developed a Mandelbrot fractal in which each level 64 times as large as the underlying. Then put it fractal pattern on a time scale. The peaks and troughs of the pattern related to the connection points to level indicated whether it is a time span of one day, 1000 years or even the beginning of time involved. The levels of the pattern to connect with key moments in history they came to the conclusion that the end of the time scale was on December 22, 2012. This is the only point where the maximum level achieved.

    The last 80 pages of their book to the complicated calculations show that they had used. There was a base period of 67 years (all calculations are approximate, but not entirely inaccurate) detected.

    2012 to 67 years = 1945, a year of major changes

    2012 - 4300 years (67 x 64) = 2300 BC, the beginning of historical time

    2012 to 275,000 years (4300 x 64) is the emergence of the Gay Sapiens

    2012 to 1.3 billion years = the beginning of life on Earth

    About what may happen in 2012 they say the following:

    "One can achieve the zero is seen in one or two forms. One is the dissolution of the cosmos in a process involving the laws of nature decomposes, a literal apocalypse. The other possibility ... The height of a human process , a process tool, that will be reflected in the perfect subject in alchemical terms, the unity of spirit and matter.

    On top of all this, they state that they are already in 1975, long before the Maya had heard, the final date in 2012 were calculated. In favor of this speaks the fact that the original edition of their book with no word about the Maya. If this is true it would be nonsense for their chance to profit as the result and we certainly take seriously.

    Also within the model of the increasing developments and 2012 as end date past the idea that people on a subconscious level changes can feel coming. Uncertain about what we can expect, with an uncomfortable feeling, we do our best to "to do" now we have time. A final attempt to the top of us can reach. And if we are able to a disturbance in the future feel, birds and animals do this perhaps. Perhaps the non-human species have suddenly stopped in December 2012 as in earthquakes.

    Note the sequence of solar gain.

    The Earth rotates around an axis, with the northern end to the North Pole. The rotation is similar to that of a toll, and as a toll, the Earth during the run back and forth. The pace is very low, a few back and forth movement takes about 25,800 years. This is the reason that the point in the sky where the North Pole points towards a gradual change. At the time, he to Polaris, the Pole. About 12,000 years Vega will be near aanwijspunt. If the position of the Pole in the sky changes, the positions of all other stars. This depends on our wobbly, rotating Earth. Astro-archaeologists as the sequence of solar often turn to show why ancient stone circles and pyramids their accuracy in the identification of celestial events have lost. They can also help to determine when these monuments were built.

    The old Olmeken (which came before the Maya) were fully aware of this slow movement. They ensured that the pyramid at La Venta was always adjusted so that it was accurate.

    Note on fractals

    Fractal geometry is often called the "geometry of nature" mentioned. Eeen fractal is a geometric shape with a complex and very detailed form for each degree of magnification. Often fractals itself composed of many repetitive forms. Designing fractals depends on a self-repetitive formula. In nature, the limited details in the arithmetic, the infinite depth.

    Note on nanotechnology

    A nanometer is one billionth of a meter (a width of 3 to 4 atoms). Nanotechnology is the creation of small objects using atoms as building blocks. Some developers dream of a self-replicating nanobot-small devices that make replicas of themselves through the manipulation of atoms. A much cited quote that this is the fear that someone self-replicating nano-bots that will refuse to stop. In one night would be the entire universe may be filled with nano-bots and nothing else.

    3. Spatial alignment

    The calendar of the Maya and fractal patterns are only human constructs, descriptions of our journey through time. But our universe is a giant wheel around-we are actually in a slow oscillating motion and therefore it seems as if the stars also rotate. This "sequence of the solar gain" takes 25,800 years to complete a cycle to complete and during this cycle, we can conjunctions between stars and our solar system in the sky watching.



    Ancient civilizations recognized four key dates within each year: the two solar gain (the longest and shortest day) and two night just made (the length of day and night equal). They could provide these days when approached by the stars and their position in relation to the horizon at sunrise and sunset. If you looked long enough, hundreds of years, it became clear that the stars each year, something changed position. The star in the east was at the winter solstice of 70 years ago, a rate correspondingly. The Greek astronomer Hipparchus (ca. 190 to 120 BC) is widely recognized as discoverer of this phenomenon, but the ancient Egyptians and Mayans were already aware of this phenomenon.

    Independent researcher John Major Jenkins has a long and involved book, entitled Maya Cosmo Genesis written in 2012. This book tells that the Maya not only all the sequences but also understood that the predicted end date of 2012 a special event in our universe means.

    Our universe has a center where the stars in a cycle of millions of years running around. This center is located in the place where most of the stars, as seen from Earth. In four previous occasions within the 25,800-year cycle was the center of our universe is aligned with the sunrise of a solstice or equinox. The last time that occurred during an autumn equinox around 6450 years ago. Around this time began the decline of civilizations in the Old World. On December 21, 2012, a winter solstice (Northern Hemisphere), this center once again with our sun on a line. Jenkins presents a mass astrological, mythological and historical evidence to show how important this event was for the Maya and their calendar with a reason to stop this date. Unfortunately he is not sure what the reason. His book is called:

    A door to the heart of the area will open

    The cosmos will be reborn or recreated

    We will achieve zero of the process - a moment of spiritual birth

    "... Our basic approach will be reversed. On the level of human civilization, our beliefs and principles revealed and we will be able to identify values that have been long under the surface of our collective consciousness lie."

    "On a literal level of interpretation, one supported by many popular writers, there paranormal gifted for ushers feel an imminent shift of the poles. This shift could be disastrous consequences that the world felt. We can Nothing to do ... I give more preference to a pole shift in our collective consciousness. This would be the possibility of a successful, positive change in our hands eiegen places. "

    But what will happen? Perhaps the flood of changes such as McKenna's predict a global disaster and the rise of the Age of Aquarius? There may be a new era of love in 2012?

    The age of Aquarius

    Nobody knows when exactly begins. The twelve constellations have different dimensions and the limits are fairly insecure. We will sometime within the next 200 years the New Age of Aquarius enter. There is no fixed date when this will take place, but a gradual change. In the same context we find hidden in the fifth appendix of Cosmo Genesis of the Maya that will appropriately to say that the alignment will take place around 2012. We must take into account a margin of about 50 years.

    It seems that we need to look elsewhere for how and what to order. It is unlikely that the end date of the Maya coincidentally falls on a solstice. A solstice is a yearly position of the Earth during its orbit around the sun at a solstice can not access. I suggest that in 2012 a year which the Maya have always been a little conscience, a year in which a cosmic activity will affect our planet. Their choice of December 21 was made only because it is an important day, but also the most appropriate day to form myths around.

    With thanks to: MysteryDatabase.com • Index page
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    Re: What should we expect in 2012?

    Update:

    (1 of 3) 2012 Mayan Calendar, Doomsday or Ascension? (2009)





    “How is freedom measured, in individuals as in nations? By the resistance which has to be overcome, by the effort it costs to stay aloft. One would have to seek the highest type of free man where the greatest resistance is constantly being overcome: five steps from tyranny, near the threshold of the danger of servitude.”

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    Re: What should we expect in 2012?

    The question you raised, "What should we expect to happen come 2012?".
    Not a very glamorous subject to face every morning having tea. Considering the issue concerns the fate of the people of the world, and thier governments.
    All speculation is treated second nature. Makes one want to defend. An act of terrorism on a grand scale? Some kind of a natural cataclysm? It is all very interesting.
    Y2k was certainly egged on. And there was that spot in time a scientist predicted a great earthquake at the Mew Madrid Fualt-USA. It had the national media as well as the international media freaked out. Bad.
    Is this where 2012 is going to take us? Are we going to be confounded to a dooms day there never was?
    Sorry I did not bring the indian subject matter into view. But in the modern day, one should not let the present be affected by a piece of historical prediction. Very much a bad gamble.
    If these certanties could take place, they should be able to be proven. And how about the relevance of these informations.

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    Re: What should we expect in 2012?

    maybe the same as what happened on Jan 1st 2000... NOTHING!!! the calender has been forwarded quite a few times since the mayans invented their calender. We're probably living around 2022-2035 in that case. Yes the theories look interesting ,but it should be looked at with an open mind... we cannot live in an age were doomsday ppl in religion and elsewhere control the world and it's people. seems to me we're heading more back into a second Dark Age than anything else....

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