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    2012 doubtful

    I've spent quite a bit of time looking at research into the 2012 phenomenon and I'm still not convinced that something major is going to happen in a small amount of time.
    I see change all around everyday. On one side of the vibrational spectrum things are getting very 'heavy' (vaccination to newborns, genetically modified foods, rfid microchips just to mention a few) on the other side I see more and more 'light' (more people discussing the real issues, more people getting into meditation, more flow of information just to mention a few), so the idea of a specific date in time down to the minute sounds ridiculous to me. Yes I totally accept an alignment of our solar system with the galactic plane, an evolution in consciousness, earth changes and so forth but gradualy the same way a seed germinates into a plant and grows to be a tree to me that's how I see things.
    Please disagree with me and show me evidence or reason to think differently.

    Here's what a 2012 debunker as to say just out of curiosity:

    YouTube - 2012 debunked
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    Re: 2012 doubtful

    Its difficult to decide who "knows" the truth. Somebody says one thing and someone says another. This fact is, the future is not written yet, and it can be changed. We could have a beautiful society in harmony with the earth and each other, or we can keep going like we are now. I prefer the first one. David Wilcock has some great science based information on 2012. I assume you have watched his 2012 enigma video?
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    Thank you for your thoughts.
    I did watch David Wilcock seminar, it was very enlightening. But it should have been called the "Pineal Gland Enigma", in my opinion.
    Did you know there's a big hollywood blockbuster with a very "expensive" cast called "2012" ? You can watch the trailer here Apple - Movie Trailers - 2012
    2012 has gone mainstream!

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    Re: 2012 doubtful

    Whether or not something major is going to happen in 2012, it's really insignificant. We just need to keep being kind and loving.

    Best case scenario, we all move to the 4th density and all is well. Worst case scenario, we are stuck here in a hellish world.

    I don't think it will be hellish if we stay positive and loving, even if NOTHING happens.
    Go through your life with love and light, and nothing can truly harm you.

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    Re: 2012 doubtful

    I agree with you. loving kindness and discernment gives me inner peace. There are so many changes happening now that 'fear' is easy to fall into and this in itself is harder to 'know' or follow intuitively where we need to be or to stay put.
    there is so much written about this time that to stay grounded and trusting in our higher selves gives me a sense of inner peace.

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    Re: 2012 doubtful

    Because of what David Wilcock has said about everything going white when these people who were using these viewers got to Dec. 21, 2012, I do believe that whatever happens at that point, is what we believe will happen. So, for some of us, we will go on living just as though nothing has happened. For others, life will be the most horrific, inconceivable event that could possibly be imagined. And for others, we will be in 'heaven'. And so on.

    It will be whatever we believe it to be at that point. So, I chose to believe that everything will be wonderful and all the evil will go away and we will all have powers of levitation, and psychokinesis, and other things. (A girl can dream!)

    It doesn't matter. All you have to do is eliminate fear, as tough as that may be, and everything will surprisingly be ok.
    Go through your life with love and light, and nothing can truly harm you.

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    Re: 2012 doubtful

    2012 article and the Mayan Calander
    link to the full story
    Doomsday in 2012?: Viewzone

    to understand this more there is an article posted in the news section of the forum
    about the magnetic field of the earth--if we research solar activity for which the Mayans did
    with exacting science-

    A big question has been what does this mean for us spiritually- the veil being lifted and the transparency noted being able to see things not normally seen of a spiritual nature but this also coincides with something happening on a galatic scale as we learn more scientifically about the weather pattern changes of the planets in our solar system

    there is another article about our galaxy belonging to a dwarf galaxy not the Milky Way as was once believed, Perhaps the Maya knew this and understood the movement of planets in the universe and their galaxies which as we grow in scientific understanding only helps us understand the Mayan Calender with greater insight.

    Removing fear is the spiritual significance of spiritual awareness and growth and this is timely indeed!

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    Hey, thanks for the link.

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    Re: 2012 doubtful

    youre welcome--its a good read with much to consider -- but a clear perspective well researched

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    Re: 2012 doubtful

    Gregg Braden scientist author of the God Code, Divine Matrix and many more discusses 2012 and the changes of the magnetic field of earth will change, which will also affect consciousness. Part two discusses ascension during this shift.

    part one


    part two

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