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Thread: Army Says 12 dead, 31 Injured at Fort Hood; Shooters Were US Soldiers

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    Texas Fort Hood in lockdown after shooting

    November 5, 2009

    A shooting at Fort Hood prompted the base and nearby schools to order a lockdown, according to news reports.

    KCEN-TV in Central Texas said seven people were killed and 12 wounded. The station said there were two suspects in the shootings.

    MSNBC also reported the shootings, quoting the public affairs officer at the base. It said sirens were sounding on the base to alert all personnel to remain where they were.

    MSNBC reported the shootings occurred at a barracks about 1:30 p.m.

    KCEN reported that one person was in custody and one was still at large. It quoted a source as saying that shooter has a high-powered rifle and is aiming to kill.

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    Army Says 12 dead, 31 Injured at Fort Hood; Shooters Were US Soldiers

    UPDATE: All shooters were U.S. soldiers

    FORT HOOD, Texas – The U.S. Army says 12 people have been killed and 31 wounded in a shooting rampage on the Fort Hood Army base in Texas. Lt. Gen Bob Cone said at a news conference that one shooter has been killed and two suspects were apprehended on Thursday. He says they are all U.S. soldiers.


    SWAT teams battle at least one gunman on Texas Army base

    NBC News
    Thursday, November 5, 2009

    At least 12 people were killed and 31 others were wounded in a mass shooting incident Thursday at Fort Hood, Texas, military officials said. The shooter was shot to death, they said.

    More shots were reported later in the afternoon, reported NBC affiliate KCEN-TV of Waco, which said no further details were immediately available.

    A senior administration official told NBC News analyst Roger Cressey that the suspect who was in custody was an Army major with an Arabic-sounding name. The official said the shootings could have been a criminal matter rather than a terrorism-related attack and that there was no intelligence to suggest a plot against Fort Hood.

    It was unknown whether the victims were all soldiers or civilians at Fort Hood, one of the largest military complexes in the world. The base was on lockdown, as were schools in the area.

    KCEN, which quoted a source as saying at least one of the shooters had a high-powered rifle, reported reported that at least four SWAT officers were among those wounded.

    A spokesman for Fort Hood said the shootings took place at two locations around 1:30 p.m.: the Soldiers Readiness Processing Center and Howze Theater.

    The spokesman, Sgt. Major Jamie Posten, said processing center was where soldiers “cycle through as they prepare to deploy.” That complex is on the West side of post, off Battalion Avenue.

    Greg Schannep, an aide to Rep. John Carter, R-Texas, who was on the post to attend a graduation service, told the Austin American-Statesman that a soldier with blood on his uniform ran past him and said a man was shooting.

    Full story here.


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    12 Dead, 31 Wounded in Base Shootings

    The New York Times
    November 5, 2009

    At least one gunman killed 12 people and wounded 31 in a shooting on Thursday afternoon at Fort Hood in Texas. Military police killed one shooter, who had two guns, and at least two soldiers are in custody.

    Lt. Gen. Robert W. Cone, the commanding officer at Fort Hood, the largest active military installation in the country, said the base was in lockdown as military authorities, with the help of the Federal Bureau of Investigation investigate the rampage.

    “This was a terrible tragedy,” said General Cone, speaking at a news conference Thursday afternoon. “Stunning.”’

    An Army spokesman, Gary Tallman, said that the dead gunman was an Army major. A law enforcement official identified the him as Malik Nadal Hassan.

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    Counter-terror plans will be revised to reflect Fort Hood and Afghan attacks

    Times Online
    November 5, 2009

    A soldier turning on his comrades at Fort Hood, an Afghan policeman killing the British soldiers who trained him – two uncannily similar events in two days, but incidents which, across the Western world, security authorities have been planning for and dreading.

    Since the Mumbai attacks counter-terrorism planning has seen a major shift. Those charged with thwarting or reacting to future terror attacks were alarmed by Mumbai. The shootings in Afghanistan and Fort Hood carry echoes of the atttacks in India with the added danger that the enemy has come from within.

    The new-style of attack relies not on the suicide bomb, or the al-Qaeda adherence to massive casualties, but on the shock of a gunman, or a handful of gunmen, opening fire in a place where people felt safe and secure – the luxury hotel, the police base, the US Army camp.

    Lord West, the Security Minister, told a Commons committee last month that the prospect of such an attack in Britain was at the forefront of his mind. The minister said he and his team were “doing a lot of work” on “the Mumbai issue”. He painted a bleak (and rather prophetic) picture of what might happen: “It is extremely difficult in an open society to stop there being initial casualties, if you have some men who have been trained to military standard, three or four of them, with relatively heavy weapons.

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    Ft. Hood Massacre: Mass murderer vs. Terrorist vs. ?American Muslim?

    Michael Yaki
    SF Chronicle
    Friday, Nov 6th, 2009

    The shocking, bloody, ambush of unarmed soldiers and innocent civilians, allegedly by Army Major Nidal Hasan is yet another horrific chapter in our nation’s history of mass murders. But it is how that chapter is currentely being written by the media that has immense implications for who and what we are as a nation.

    Once the name of the protagonist was established, the blogs lit up and the talking heads immediately turned to the “terrorist” word. Anderson Cooper repeatedly referred to Hasan as an “American Muslim.” I somehow don’t see Cooper referring to the Columbine killers, Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris as “American Protestants.” Yet, front and center, the media began their speculation on whether Hasan was a “recent convert” to Islam, what websites he visited, and whether “outside influences” — code words for Imams and terrorist recruiters — had compelled him to walk onto the base and begin his shooting rampage. Indeed, the media was playing {and replaying} up the fact that he was shown wearing “traditional” Arab garb earlier in the day as he bought some coffee, although other footage from the day before showed him wearing hospital scrubs — which thus far has never made the endless loop on CNN.

    When we — and by that I mean the American people and the press — were previously exposed to reports of mass killings by a single individual or a small group of individuals, the individuals responsible were denominated as mass murderers. Their intent may have included a desire to terrorize their potential victims, to unsettle and create upheaval in communities, but they were still referred to as garden-variety mass murderers. Charles Whitman, the psychopath who killed 14 and wounded 32 from the tower in the University of Texas in 1966, was a mass murderer. George Jo Kennard, who drove his pickup into a Luby’s restaurant in Killeen, Texas {sadly and ironically, close to Ford Hood} and killed 23 was a mass murderer. Most recently, we were glued to the television sets by the tragedy at Virginia Tech, where Seung-Hui Cho gunned down 32 students and faculty. He, too, was pronounced a mass murderer.

    Full article here


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    Muslims fear backlash in wake of Fort Hood massacre

    Raw Story
    Friday, Nov 6th, 2009

    American Islamic groups braced themselves for a public backlash against the faith on Thursday after it was revealed that the alleged shooter in the Fort Hood massacre has a Muslim name.

    Soon after Pentagon officials named one of the shooters at the Fort Hood facility as Nidal Malik Hasan, groups rallied to condemn an act President Barack Obama had earlier described as a “horrific outburst of violence.”

    The Council on American-Islamic Relations, the largest Muslim group in the country, appealed for calm in the wake of the killing spree that left 12 people dead and 31 wounded.

    “We ask for calm in this situation, and we fear for a backlash against American Muslims in light of previous unfortunate incidents that were linked to Muslims,” Nihad Awad, the group’s executive director, told the Associated Press.

    “Although the attacker has a Muslim name, that does not mean there is any religious justification for” his actions, Awad continued, adding that “any faith, any ideology is vulnerable to claims by some deranged individuals … for their irrational and criminal behavior.”

    Awad said CAIR condemned the Thursday shooting “in the strongest possible terms,” and “our thoughts and prayers are with the victims of this attack, and our sincere condolences to the families of those who were killed.”

    The debate over whether the alleged shooter was motivated by religion or ideology has already begun.

    On Fox News Thursday evening, host Shepard Smith said that the alleged shooter’s name “tells us a lot” about the incident, though he did not elaborate. Notably, Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-TX) agreed with Smith’s assertion.

    CAIR released a statement Thursday evening, in which it urged “American Muslims, and those who may be perceived to be Muslim, to take appropriate precautions to protect themselves, their families and their religious institutions from possible backlash.”

    Qaseem Ali Uqdah, who was a Marine for 21 years before becoming the executive director at the American Muslim Armed Forces and Veterans Affairs Council, now fears a “witch hunt” like that which followed September 11, 2001.

    “This is a criminal act and we have to treat it like a criminal act, not something to do with religion” he told Agence France-Presse.

    For the estimated 3,500 Muslims in the US armed forces, Uqdah said there could be some fallout from the attack.

    “What we don’t need is people downrange sitting in foxholes (in Afghanistan or Iraq) questioning if you are a Christian, if you are a Muslim or if you are a Jew … that is not what we need as a nation.

    “We need to fight the war on terror together,” he added.

    In a Pew survey published last September, 38 percent of respondents said that Islam encouraged violence more than other religions.

    Fifty-eight percent said there was a lot of discrimination against Muslims in the United States.


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    Web post by Fort Hood gunman Major Nidal Malik Hasan could shed light on motives

    Philippe Naughton and Chris Ayres
    London Times
    Friday, Nov 6th, 2009

    Investigators trying to understand why a US army psychiatrist launched into a shooting spree on a military base in Texas will be poring over an internet posting he is thought to have made comparing the sacrifice of Islamist suicide bombers and American military heroes.

    Thirteen people were killed and more than 30 were injured when Major Nidal Malik Hasan opened fire at Fort Hood yesterday afternoon in a part of the base where soldiers are prepared for deployment to Afghanistan and Iraq.

    The gunman himself was shot four times and was reported last night to be unconscious and on a ventilator in a nearby hospital. The female officer said to have shot him is also in hospital.

    Major Hasan, 39, whose job involved counselling soldiers suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder after overseas tours, had himself fought a long and unsuccessful campaign against deployment to Iraq – which a cousin described as “his worst nightmare”.

    Full article here


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    Everything About Nidal Malik Hasan Screams ?Patsy?

    Killer’s pre-rampage behavior is completely at odds with the idea of him preparing to massacre more than a dozen of his colleagues.

    Paul Joseph Watson
    Prison Planet.com
    Friday, November 6, 2009

    The Empire strikes back – right when when public support for the occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan sinks to all time lows, an anti-war Islamic extremist with links to suicide bombers goes on a shooting rampage at a U.S. army base, reinvigorating support for the war on terror and demonizing opposition to it as anti-American extremism. The scam would be believable if it wasn’t so perfectly staged.

    Without getting into convoluted conspiracy theories about mind control and whatever else, not that they aren’t without merit, the facts we already know about Hasan and his behavior prior to the deadly shootings just screams out “patsy” and “set-up” and almost exactly mirrors other terror scams the Empire has run in the past.

    Just like the would-be liquid bombers that were supposedly planning on bringing down multiple airliners in August 2006, who were caught on CCTV buying bulk supplies of cake in the very hours before the plot, Hasan’s pre-shooting behavior contradicts completely the idea that he was preparing for a deadly rampage.

    Shortly before the massacre, Hasan was caught on camera shopping at the convenience store located on the army base – laughing and joking. Is this the behavior of a man psychologically readying himself for the high-intensity horror of gunning down dozens of his colleagues, or someone unaware of what was to follow?

    We learn that Hasan “Showed no signs of worry or stress when he stopped at 7-Eleven for his daily breakfast of hash browns, said Jeannie Strickland, the store’s manager.” ” He came in (Thursday) morning just like normal,” she said, “nothing weird, nothing out of the ordinary.”

    CNN feverishly seized upon the CCTV footage and began broadcasting it relentlessly because Hasan is seen wearing Arab garb and Muslim headdress, fitting the carefully pre-arranged stereotype perfectly.

    The Smiling Assassin? Hasan’s pre-rampage behavior is completely at odds with the idea of him preparing to massacre more than a dozen of his colleagues.

    Just like the 7/7 bombing patsies who were filmed laughing and joking, getting into arguments and generally doing everything a terrorist would want to avoid, Hasan’s pre-attack behavior should set alarm bells ringing.

    Just like the 7/7 bombing patsies and the liquid bombing patsies, the description of Hasan by those reinforcing the official characterization of him as a vengeful jihadist is completely at odds with how his own family members described him.

    Hasan’s cousin laughed when an interviewer asked him if the shooter was “violent.”

    “He was just normal, loved sports, never got into trouble.” He said his family was “shocked and baffled” by the incident.

    “His parents didn’t want him to go into the military,” Mr. Hasan said. “He said, ‘No, I was born and raised here, I’m going to do my duty to the country.’ ”

    The backdrop behind Hasan’s alleged motive for the rampage also represents an inch-perfect staging for subsequent characterization of those opposed to the war on terror as lunatics, crackpots and extremists.

    In the hours after the event, we were told that Hasan was upset about being deployed to Iraq at the end of the month. This then mutated into the notion that Hasan was “anti-war” and later we were informed that he was “facing an FBI investigation for expressing sympathy with suicide bombers.” The fact that this was known by authorities six months ago and still Hasan was not only allowed to remain at the Army base, but also invited to participate in Homeland Security exercises only raises more red flags.

    Then the lurid details really began to pour in to reinforce the Islamic terrorist stereotype – Hasan screamed “Allah Akbar!” before opening fire, he made “outlandish comments concerning U.S. foreign policy.”

    As Michael Yaki highlights, the media characterization of Hasan as a Muslim terrorist was assumed by default, and almost from the first moment it seemed as though news anchors were reading from a script prepared well in advance.

    “Once the name of the protagonist was established, the blogs lit up and the talking heads immediately turned to the “terrorist” word. Anderson Cooper repeatedly referred to Hasan as an “American Muslim.” I somehow don’t see Cooper referring to the Columbine killers, Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris as “American Protestants.” Yet, front and center, the media began their speculation on whether Hasan was a “recent convert” to Islam, what websites he visited, and whether “outside influences” — code words for Imams and terrorist recruiters — had compelled him to walk onto the base and begin his shooting rampage. Indeed, the media was playing {and replaying} up the fact that he was shown wearing “traditional” Arab garb earlier in the day as he bought some coffee, although other footage from the day before showed him wearing hospital scrubs — which thus far has never made the endless loop on CNN.”

    Pointing out the fact that every other killer in U.S. history was described as a “mass murderer” and not a terrorist, Yaki slams the media’s contrived and “implied presumption (that) Hasan appears to be terrorist unless proven otherwise.”

    Why were initial reports of three shooters reversed? Why were two alleged shooters taken into custody but quickly released? Was Hasan framed?

    When the dust settles on yesterday’s tragic events at Fort Hood it may indeed turn out to be the case that Nidal Malik Hasan was a lone nut seeking to exact revenge for what he saw as perpetual war crimes being carried out against the people of Iraq and Afghanistan. If that is the case, it doesn’t make such crimes acceptable nor does it mean all people who oppose the war on terror are likely to go on a shooting rampage.

    However, from all the evidence that has emerged thus far, and in comparing it with other terror scams in the past where patsies have been deliberately groomed and set up to be the fall guys for false flag attacks, everything we know about yesterday’s events suggests that there is infinitely more to the story of Nidal Malik Hasan than meets the eye.


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    Nidal Hasan: Ft. Hood Shooter Participated in Homeland Security Disaster Preparation

    John Cook
    Friday 6th November, 2009

    The gunman who killed 12 people today at Ft. Hood appears, based on current media reports, to be Army psychiatrist Nidal Hasan who was listed as a participant in a Homeland Security Policy Institute’s presidential transition task force last year.

    The task force was not officially affiliated with the White House. It was a project of the Homeland Security Policy Institute, an independent thinktank housed at George Washington University, aimed at drafting policy recommendations for the incoming Obama administration.

    According to the task force’s May 2009 report [pdf], a “Nidal Hasan” from the Uniformed Services University School of Medicine was a task force event participant. Other participants included Senate and House staffers, Department of Homeland Security officials, Defense Department officials, and reporters for Politico, the Washington Post, and the London Times.

    McClatchy reports that Maj. Malik Nidal Hasan attended “training in disaster and preventive psychiatry at Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences F. Edward Herbert School of Medicine, Bethesda, Md.,” and his Virginia medical board license lists his name as “Nidal Malik Hasan,” reversing the first two names of the identity reported so far and spelling “Nidal” differently than earlier reports did. (The New York Times is now reporting that his name is, in fact, Nidal Malik Hasan). So it seems likely that the “Nidal Hasan” affiliated with Uniformed Services University (USU) listed as a task force participant, the “Nidal Malik Hasan” listed by Virginia’s state medical board as practicing psychiatry at the Walter Reed Army Medical Center and by reported by McLatchy as having studied at USU, and the “Malik Nadal Hasan” who practiced psychiatry at Walter Reed identified in various media reports as the shooter are all the same person. Or were the same person.

    Hasan’s name is also listed in a July 2008 USU newsletter [pdf] as having graduated the Master of Public Health Program in June of last year.
    And here’s what appears to be a medical paper, or submission to a medical database, written by him.

    UPDATE (by Ryan): Law enforcement officials became aware of Hasan at least six months ago after “internet postings that discussed suicide bombings and other threats,” according to AP.

    ASSME found an online post from a “Nidal Hassan,” pictured below, reconciling suicide bombings with Islamic teachings against other types of suicide. It’s not at all clear yet whether this post came from the shooter Nidal Hassan or a different Nadal Hassan; even federal agents are “still trying to confirm that he was the author” of whatever posts they’re looking at, according to AP.


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    Fort Hood Shooter Information Not Adding Up

    Corruption American Style
    November 6, 2009

    What happened Thursday November 5, 2009 was a tragedy.* Gunman Major Nidal Malik Hasan allegedly snapped and went on a shooting rampage at Fort Hood in Texas, killing at least 12 and injuring 31 others. The information coming in has been conflicting and at times wildly contradictory. Some of this is the result of the newness of the tragedy. But through nonstop coverege the media has begun to flesh out a good deal of the story, and yet a careful examination of just some of the more widely stated information shows there are troubling and conflicting problems with the MSM and government’s version of what happened.

    Major Nidal Malik Hasan.This is starting to have the earmarks and anatomy of a disinformation psy ops story.
    For instance, the media reported that Hasan was promoted to Major in May of this year. And yet, stories coming from what is passing as his family, the FBI and co-workers state that Hasan had wanted out of the military given the government’s stand on Afghanistan and Muslims. Indeed, his Aunt “Noel Hasan” (who is interestingly enough identified herself as a Bank President) and his cousin both gave statements to the media which provided that Hasan wanted out of the military and had been harassed since 9-11 about his Muslim faith. Co-workers and the authorities have also stated that Hasan had an Internet presence and a Facebook account, and the FBI has him under survailance for the past 6 months for radical anti-American and pro-Muslim writings on his online accounts.

    Now, why on earth would the military promote a man who was unhappy, had objected to being in the military, had not wanted to deploy to anywhere outside of the U.S., and who had allegedly made himself a security threat with online radical comments? The answer is they would never promote such an individual, and someone who badly wants out of the military (to the point of offering to pay back medical school costs to the U.S. military, according to Hasan’s Banker aunt). Not only that, if Hasan was truly radical and wanted out he would have never put in for a promotion to Major. But the fact remains he was promoted to Major this year. Try to reconcile those conflicting testimonies and facts.

    The media had originally reported that witnesses had seen between 3 and 5 gunmen. Then that number went to 3, with Hasan being wounded and taken in to custody, and two other suspects allegedly being taken into custody and later released after being “cleared” and jumping into a Crown Victoria with US Government license plates on it (and men in suits inside). Now we are even being told that Hasan was yelling “Allahu Akbar” or (Allah is good) while he was gunning down victims. Hours ago witnesses remarked how methodical and stoic the *accused gunman was.

    On top of this, several outlets were reporting that Hasan was an expert or marksman shooter with a pistol in the army, and had spent numerous hours honing his shooting skills.* Then, that rumor was undercut by the following statement to Fox News:

    *”The shooter’s cousin, Nader Hasan, told Fox News that their family is in shock.

    “We are trying to make sense of all this,” Nader Hasan said. “He wasn’t even someone who enjoyed****** going*to the firing range.”

    They cannot even decide if the man if 40 or 39.* And on top of that, he graduated from Virginia Tech for his undergraduate work, and others “close” to Hasan said he was gentle and quiet and wanted to make a career out of his Psychiatry degree in the military. Hasan was not married, but very religious who prayed daily.*One source stated he was not looking for a wife, another source (in the same article) says he was.

    Confused yet? It is only going to get worse. And one thing is for sure, Hasan will be the lone gunman, the other’s idenitified by eyewitnesses as shooters as well will be ignored and forgotten by the military and the media.* And Hasan will be portrayed as a radical unstable Muslim idealist who somehow passed screening into the Army, into Army medical school and psychiatry residency, and the lone gunman here.

    And since Hasan has no immediate family and is single, with two so-called family members who appear to have all the media savvy of a PR man from the Rendon Group, he is the perfect patsy.

    I hate to say it, but this tragedy stinks to high heavens and reaks of clandestine*intelligence operations.
    Only time will tell, but the government media complex will continue to lie about this for as long as they can get away with it.*And against this backdrop, the website Chicago.com is blasting President Obama for his Frightening Insinsesativity following the shootings.

    We are truly living in a bizarre and corrupt time.


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