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Thread: Linda Brown – Daughter of Thomas Townsend Brown (TTB)

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    Re: Linda Brown – Daughter of Thomas Townsend Brown (TTB)

    Quote Originally Posted by Linda Brown View Post
    One wonders why it was important for those on the Pegasus Consortium to try so desperately to challenge my authority as the daughter of Thomas Townsend Brown.... and why also it has been important for Mikado to create messages on the HUT ( ttownsendbrown.com) ( which he controls) to slur my credibility.

    This is not something that is simply happenstance. Its really nothing personal either.... there is an agenda behind those actions.

    Zorgon and his crew and Mikado and his efforts will not turn me from my chore here. I don't need to even say that. My actions will speak for themselves. Linda
    Do you see how thick you are? I have repeatedly affirmed you as Dr. Brown's daughter. All you need to do is look up the posts on this forum but you continually wish to corral me with Zorgon.

    As to your actions, to those with an IQ higher than 90, yep, your posts define your character.

    So, no explanations why the sudden attack on Kim? What prompted you to reference that posts? Could it be that you got your dander up? Afterall, you were over at the Hut, persistently and consistently, rereading posts and it is funny that whenever you do, a post will appear here. Almost as if you want to stir the pot.

    Kim's son had no bearing on anything but you felt it necessary to take that post and bring it here. Could you possibly explain the relevance of it on this thread which is titled - "Linda Brown - Daughter of Thomas Townsend Brown". I would really enjoy hearing how it fits in but then on one hand, it does....

    .....it fits in with your personality to inflict emotional pain on someone even though the subject of that attack has no bearing on the topic at hand.

    Yes, it fits quite well for this thread is the culmination of your narcissism.

    I want to know how the subject you brought up fits in, that is, if my explanation above is incorrect.

    Mikado

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    Re: Linda Brown – Daughter of Thomas Townsend Brown (TTB)

    Quote Originally Posted by Linda Brown View Post
    At one point Mikado launched into what he called " Due Diligence" on Dads story.... especially something that had been called " A short autobiography" which Dad wrote in the early 70s. For some reason Mikado decided that it was flawed.... and possibly written by someone else.... so he strongly encouraged a couple of English researchers to post their thoughts on it.... which they did..... but later when I stood up and confronted Geoffs conclusion he withdrew it and posted that notice. Of course Mikado disagreed but it was an interesting example of " arm twisting ( I thought) to Mikados agenda

    ? View topic - Where was Robert Sarbacher in 1945/46?.

    I haven't heard a word from either Geoff or his son since this exchange and I notice that they have apparently not posted any thing else on the HUT.

    "by Linda Brown » Mon May 27, 2013 7:34 am

    Geoff,

    I want to ask you directly why you made such an enormous effort to question the fact that Dad was the author of " A short Autobiography"

    These are your exact words after a very long and exhaustive message.... which I will reprint in full.... so that other readers can see the absolute passion that you displayed in following this agenda and I want to ask you why you did this.

    Were you following Mikados direction? I notice that later when you realized that I was willing to stand up and vouch for the fact that I was there when Dad himself wrote this piece that you, (as the gentleman that I believe you are), withdrew this conclusion.

    The question remains...... why did you do this? What prompted you to react in this manner? Its as if you were trying to prove that someone had put that piece out rather fraudulently. And I wondered what would inspire you to do that?

    Mikado was certainly pleased that you were writing what you did.

    I wanted you to know that I appreciated the withdrawal of your " conclusion"... but of course not many people can read this exchange now because it has been put behind a " special password" restriction on the HUT ( if it hasn't been deleted.) I think the fact that you withdrew your charges that this short piece was NOT written by Dad was something that Mikado did not want to see out there.

    Many months have gone by since this happened but now of course I am rereading most of what was written about my Dad and Mr. Sarbacher. Your earlier excellent research on Mr. Sarbacher has been a big help to me. ( even though you presented it to discredit information that I had been given by a trusted source. iI hasn't worked that way at all and I wanted to let you know that I intend to give your research proper credit and to thank you it)

    I notice that you have not posted on the Hut and that puts us at a disadvantage because I will not reintroduce my energy over there.... so I am posting this here and hopefully I can reach you by Email....or perhaps someone else might be able to reach you.

    But, just for the record.... it would be nice to know what prompted you to initially take such a negative stance in this conclusion....

    Conclusion
    For the reasons I have given in the examples above I do not believe “A Short Autobiography” was written by Townsend Brown. There are many more signs than I have discussed here that lead me to that conclusion, but I would be labouring the point to mention them all.

    I am of course, not suggesting that these events in Townsend Brown’s life never occurred. I am simply pointing out that, in my view, these are not Townsend Brown’s own accounts – they are someone else’s that are falsely presented as being Townsend’s - and that this should be borne in mind when reading the misleadingly titled document, “A Short Autobiography” by T. Townsend Brown.Geoff
    ************************************************** ************************

    I have suspected that your work fit very nicely into Mikados agenda. I just would like to know if he is the person who suggested that you take that slant. I believe that you would tell me the truth.



    My best to you and Chris. Linda
    Linda Brown
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    Geoff? Are you reading this? Have you any more to add to your research on Dr. Sarbacher ?

    Linda
    Geoff is not reading here. Geoff did not follow my directions. You have been told this repeatedly but you continually infer that he was performing his research at my behest.

    Once again for those no intimate with the details:

    The Due-Diligence was spawned from Geoff's work in looking into Halifax NA337 which Paul was informed by Morgan, as the plane used to drop Dr. Brown into Germany. Even though this ship (plane) crashed into a fjord, it's records survived in an archive in Britain along with a good deal of other records involving ships that would drop supplies and men into occupied territory. Geoff contacted me and relayed his apprehension as to the validity of information supplied to Paul Schatzkin. I told him to continue in that others were concerned over Morgan's identity as Dave and that Dave himself denied ever being Morgan.

    The above is the impetus that began the Due-Diligence.

    A good deal of information was posted on the Hut. For instance, Morgan told Paul that Dr. Brown came up with a way of detecting magnetic mines, however, upon a phone conversation with the son of the man who did, Dr. Brown had no connection with his Father. In fact, the information supplied to Paul almost matched the verbiage in some reports on the topic.

    Further, information as to Dr. Browns' whereabouts in the late 30's and the early 40's was easily gleaned, for a price for research. but the information was not in Paul's book so was never included in the Due-Diligence.

    If any one is interested here is the link to topics discussed:

    The Quonset Hut ? View forum - An analysis of "Defying Gravity"

    I think it only fair that the link is put here and not one from the Cosmic-Token where only redacted threads appear.

    Have a brain, read for yourselves.

    Mikado

    PS: Geoff and his son known as Kestrel are the ones who designed the logo that appears on Linda's book and her website. They allowed her to do so, free of charge and release of copyright. All they ever wanted was truthful writing and nothing else. Is that too much to ask for in a Biography?

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    Re: Linda Brown – Daughter of Thomas Townsend Brown (TTB)

    Quote Originally Posted by Linda Brown View Post
    Remember that when Geoff posted his retraction of that conclusion Mikado put it behind a password protected area on the HUT, an efficient way of hiding what had happened.

    Linda
    That is a flat out lie. Everything that is behind the password is prior to December 16th, 2011 as being archived which was in response Linda's demands as to "protecting" those valuable posts.

    The first post for the Due-Diligence was made on Sun Mar 18, 2012.

    Can anyone with a brain see how Linda manipulates and deceives? Is that not a form of lying? To what end?

    Mikado

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    Re: Linda Brown – Daughter of Thomas Townsend Brown (TTB)

    Quote Originally Posted by Linda Brown View Post
    No parent should have to endure what Kim has. For anyone to use that to dig at Kim and/or Mikado is beyond low. I'm siding with Kim on this one.

    Catspaw///// did you actually think that I had said those things about Kim or were you just busy trying to remain in the HUTS camp? How did that work out for you?

    Linda
    Yes she did. Cat can think for herself, at least she used to at one time and I cannot comment as to the present since I have had no communication with her.

    Is having an opinion about the actions of someone and if that opinion is contrary to a certain person, in your mind, does that mean that individual is in the "other's" camp?

    So if a jury decides against a defendant, does that mean they are against them and what camp would they be in?

    I am sure it worked out for Cat for she is following her path and not yours or mine and she will decide for herself and not be influenced by you or anyone else which includes myself.

    Your subsequent reply to Cat should be inclusive of all individuals and not just one.

    Mikado

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    Re: Linda Brown – Daughter of Thomas Townsend Brown (TTB)

    In all fairness, here is a link with an explanation for the the Due-Diligence.

    The Quonset Hut ? View topic - What is the difference or would that be accuracy?


    What is the difference or would that be accuracy?
    Postby Mikado14 » Sat Mar 31, 2012 1:16 pm

    I remember a time when Elizabeth Helen Drake wanted anyone to contribute any information in regard to Dr. Brown, whether it be good or bad, in aiding Paul Schatzkin to write an accurate, as much as possible, biography.

    Let me use the words of Elizabeth Helen Drake to explain it all:
    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth

    Welcome to the Parallel Universe ? View topic - Chapter 13 - He Made Things Up wrote:
    Chapter 13 - He Made Things Up
    by Elizabeth Helen Drake on Fri Mar 03, 2006 10:48 pm

    The title of the Chapter was "He made things up"

    I was part of the research team that descended on Denison University (which Paul mentions in this chapter). I figured I had been working on the life of Townsend Brown enough to get a feel for his personality and I was actually fairly proud of the serious work Paul and I had accomplished . (It helped knowing too that the Brown family was pleased with what we had uncovered so far)

    So it was difficult for all of us to sit there and listen to a rendition of "He made things up " ...." He didn't actually do this, he didn't actually do that" .... "People Said he did such and such" .... and most of it was ....so negatively biased against Brown it was disheartening . For me I realized that I had to put my better researcher face on ... respond to very little with my own opinions and .... take notes ... I take pretty good notes.

    As Paul has written in this chapter there was response from Dr. Biefelds son ,( written in 1956 to a UFO investigator named Leon Davidson) where the son states "My father never did colaborate with Mr. Brown in a scientific sense.)

    Of course, we had Mr. Browns own papers that clearly stated he did .... but in this horrendous storm of negative information churned up by people who were so sure of themselves .... how could we ever find the truth?

    Well, truth finds a way to the surface if you work hard enough and display enough patience and thats what Paul did. Read the last part of the chapter. Points for the Townsend Brown team!
    Elizabeth

    The quote in bold is what is important. Truth will survive and that was the meaning in my avatar from a short while back.

    What has been taking place with this drive in performing a modest due-diligence is something that has been long overdue. So much of the book "Defying Gravity" was based upon stories, and yes I do mean stories for that is what they are until proven, that were provided primarily by two individuals - Boston/O'Riley/twigsnapper and Morgan(as named by Paul Schatzkin). These two individuals are the primary sources for activities of Dr. Brown that Paul Schatzkin relied upon. He was going to perform his due-diligence in doing his rewrite but it never went that far. One does wonder what caused Mr. Schatzkin to make the decision he did with his "Epic Fail" but then he finished writing his book in February of '08. "Epic Fail" was in January of '09, a year later so the question arises - "What did he do over that period of time?" . Perhaps the answer is "due-diligence". How does one overcome the fact that information given by anonymous sources does not check out? Even Woodward and Bernstein checked out the veracity of statements made by "deepthroat". It would only stand to reason that Mr. Schatzkin would do the same, afterall, he did a nice job on his first book and I for one would have expected the same level of expertise in this book.

    All of this work that I have been doing in research, and to an extent it appears that Geoff has been doing some as well, is merely to further the veracity of Paul's work. One can take his first book and do some research on different characters, places and events and will find corresponding verification. Unfortunately, that is not possible with the book "Defying Gravity", there are way too many stories that do not hold up.

    I am sure that somewhere, Linda Brown and others will be heralding this due-diligence as a witch hunt or some other such nonsense, but it is not.

    In my work, I have found answers that substantiate Dr. Browns' work, which at some future point will be made public but there is still much to do which will prove that he is/was no crackpot but as the book "Defying Gravity" stands, it may be a detriment. How so one might ask? Because when the smoke settles and some verification of Dr. Browns' work is brought forth for perusal by those in academic circles, it is references such as "Defying Gravity" that can harm this very perusal, especially when someone else begins to perform a "due-diligence" of their own. There will always be that individual at some point that will look for those things negative to taint the entire work of Dr. Brown. Not going to happen if I can do something about it.

    Do I have an ulterior motive? Yep, I sure do. The work I have done and will continue to do I wish not to be torn down over allegations of truthfulness in the only biography written about Dr. Brown. It would become a distraction and the media is what runs this country.

    Paul Schatzkin has a contract with the Brown family to write a biography about T. Townsend Brown. That contract is still in effect as long as Paul Schatzkin is still breathing, and I do wish him a long life, and I see no further work coming forth from him in this regard so, with that in mind, I have taken it upon myself to perform a quasi "due-diligence" that will be picked up by every known web crawler and bot that will show up on those that search as to what is real and is not, what has been posted, what exists in other sites that counter the unsubstantiated claims of anonymous contributors that disappeared into the night never to be seen nor heard from again.

    This is in no means meant as an attack on the writer of "Defying Gravity" but is meant to aid him if he ever so chooses to take up pen and paper to this story. Also, it is to show interested parties in the life of Dr Brown that there are those with an agenda who will fabricate information for their own and possibly nefarious needs. These anonymous individuals will be uncovered and they are being uncovered. They claim to respect Dr. Brown but instead are performing a disservice to not only the man and his life but to his family as well.

    Ask yourself this question - Why when the ttbrown forum was shut down did twigsnapper never post again? and then ask yourself this question - "If he had so much respect for Dr. Brown and wanted his story told, why did he stay disappeared?".

    I believe the answer to that is a well kept secret....by someone.

    Mikado

    PS: Judging by the hits that these posts are receiving in regard to due-diligence, it indicates that there are significant individuals interested in the truth or verifiable information that is not from an anonymous source who refuses to come forth.

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    Re: Linda Brown – Daughter of Thomas Townsend Brown (TTB)

    Yes, I did purposely not answer Linda's question. I provided clarification of my online persona be cause I was referenced in a post. I use a variety of feline personas online. I also have multiple cats, and they do cause disorder.

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    Non-sequiter. Although I can think for myself, I don't seem to be able to tighten radiator caps properly. Must be the lack of opposable thumbs.

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    Re: Linda Brown – Daughter of Thomas Townsend Brown (TTB)

    This is the thread about Punch and Judy isn't it?
    Oh no it's not.
    Oh yes it is.

    Mr punch throws the baby out with the bath water.
    Silly Mr Punch.

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    What I see with Mikados response here is a person who wants to be the expert on Townsend Browns work.... and the only way that he can get there is to cripple the biographer and the mans daughter. Its a disgusting display of egomania.

    And it won't work.

    Linda

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    [B]Do I have an ulterior motive? Yep, I sure do. The work I have done and will continue to do I wish not to be torn down over allegations of truthfulness in the only biography written about Dr. Brown. It would become a distraction and the media is what runs this country[/B

    ]Let your "work" stand on its own two feet Mikado. Stop trying to create all the smoke and mirrors regarding Pauls work... Just do what you can do.... or not..... others can care for themselves, especially Paul (who seems not at all interested in ditching the information that he was given by Twigsnapper and "Morgan".) If he is unwilling to change his copy.... what is it to you? Your explanations are false.

    The answer is obvious. You want him discredited, you want me discredited so you can become the shining light in this field. You are not going to see that happen Mikado. The world does not reward such as you.

    Linda
    Last edited by Linda Brown; July 7th, 2013 at 05:38 PM.

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