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Thread: Linda Brown's "Rain On The Windows Papers" - A Continuation

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    Re: Linda Brown's "Rain On The Windows Papers" - A Continuation

    I do realize that I stated that I wouldn't post on this thread, however, I noticed this post from Linda on the Hut. I felt that since the topic was in this thread, I wouldn't start a new thread and waste valuable space on this forum by cluttering it up. This was the best place to put my response.

    The Quonset Hut • View topic - Why MIKADO visited Great Valley High School.
    Quote Originally Posted by Posted by Linda

    On another Forum Mikado has mentioned that he visited Great Valley High School to look up my year book picture. I think that he said that he did this in 2006. And I have a question that I think that we all should ask of him. Why did you do that? Just to see what I looked like? To prove to yourself that there actually WAS a Linda Brown in that graduating class? Why was seeing a picture of me so important to you Mikado.....

    You have made the statements else where that you understand what it is to " read" about a person from a sort of special psychic ability that you discovered that you had with the help of Ernestine Knippschild. I just wonder if you launched yourself off on some sort of "mission" in my direction.... otherwise why the active and really detailed interest in me over the years?????

    This is not just a passing thought and I would like to hear Mikados version of what was going on with him when he was doing this.

    Only fair.... since he presents himself as kind of an " expert" in my character. I want to know exactly how and why he reached these interesting conclusions.

    And Ernestine.... if you are on this side of the "viel" then I would appreciate hearing from you somewhere along the line. Earl Grey Tea???? Linda
    Several reasons to your first question. You already know the answers however I am sure you would like those that are new to hear them from me on this forum. But then why didn't you post it here instead of Hut?

    None the less, I went to Great Valley to verify 1. That you went there and 2. To see if I could identify the character identified as Morgan. Seeing your picture? Couldn't care less but as I have said to you, I was only following my visions.

    Now, moving along: "You have made the statements else where that you understand what it is to " read" about a person from a sort of special psychic ability that you discovered that you had with the help of Ernestine Knippschild."

    Again, you present a modicum if not heavily altered truth. "a sort of special psychic ability that you discovered that you had with the help of Ernestine.." Not true. You know that is not true and if that is not the case, then I suppose that you never really did listen to me when we talked. Wasn't I the fool for thinking that you were ever listening to me. I knew I had the ability prior to going to Rainbow, I went there to learn how to use it and not have it drive me nuts. I will emphasize this - I NEVER use what I have to view others without their knowledge. I don't pry. I give one example and that person can identify the validity of what I say if they wish. In a conversation with someone, my abilities came up, as proof and with their blessing, I described their bedroom to them in a matter of 30 seconds while on the phone. All I had to do was to focus. Is that what you wanted to hear?

    Continuing - "I just wonder if you launched yourself off on some sort of "mission" in my direction.... otherwise why the active and really detailed interest in me over the years?????"

    Over the years? Because I believed I found a kindred spirit who lived with the same abilities. I have since found out that is not the case. I thought I found someone I could trust....wrong! You have taken private family matters and used them, of course you did twist things as you do best, in an attempt to embarrass my family....didn't work. Life is what it is, a series of lessons and speed bumps.

    "viel" is spelled "veil". Can't you show a bit of respect to the forum by at least correcting your mistakes? Or don't you care? Too excited in that you want to post with that knee jerk reaction? Displaying a bit of anger? (notice that I am doing what Linda does - throwing out a bunch of questions that are not true to paint a picture of someone that is not what the truth really is...she just didn't see the typo)

    Mikado

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    Re: Linda Brown's "Rain On The Windows Papers" - A Continuation

    Quote Originally Posted by hobbit View Post
    Welcome to the club cat, it's the try and puzzle out what the dickens Mikado is on about club.
    It isn't that hard to understand. Most (not all) of what Mikado has said makes sense.

    Quote Originally Posted by hobbit View Post
    is how Paul described everything, and since then Mikado has been on an evangelical crusade to prove that nobody is real or exists.
    Pure bull. You have to be stupid NOT TO try to work out whether these people are real.

    Paul has been had in my opinion. As have several other people.

    Unless we have some evidence I am not correct. I don't see any.

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    Re: Linda Brown's "Rain On The Windows Papers" - A Continuation

    [/I][/B]Paul has been had in my opinion. As have several other people.

    Unless we have some evidence I am not correct. I don't see any[/B]


    Thats because you intentionally have your eyes shut and you are not even doing any looking at all. Its really a wonder you can keep your job Pimander. Your sense of professionalism must have been checked at the keyboard when it came to these Forums. Is this just how you get your jollies making assinine responses like this? I keep wanting to give you some sort of rational agenda..Give you SOME tiny bit of respect... even...... give you the honored title of an "agent provacateur" but even one of those wouldn't be so amateurish in these attacks. At least they would have a little class! I picture you sitting there in your underwear.... rubbing your hands together and saying hehehe... just lets see what they do when I say this!!!!!

    In fact maybe I should ask you if you are not the Ridgerunner that Mikado introduced to the Hut so early.?.... the one that said that it was his STUDY to see how people responded to various negative statements.... he used to liken it to " throwing a firecracker in the crowd to see which way they would scatter.

    When I found out about the Ridgerunner ruse that Mikado was putting on it cost him the respect of the people who had trusted him to that point.

    I don't know who you are and frankly don't much care.Your rhetoric is pure Mikado, much to your disgrace.... Your technique and even your style is the same. I would have hoped that you boys could have been a bit more original.

    Say hello to Paul.

    Linda
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    Re: Linda Brown's "Rain On The Windows Papers" - A Continuation

    Getting back to the original topic here. All of this actually was foretold by the papers that I have had for years.... and more and more of the " instructions" are coming true every day. All I have to do now is keep on the path I have chosen and I hope that it will unfold further.

    Thank you Lady of Light for giving me this spot to talk about all of this. I can see that there will be those trying to step out of the dark to dampen all of this but I know that it won't work in the longrun so I have the advantage finally of seeing that.... and that lends me a sense of calm that was not there before.

    Linda

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    Re: Linda Brown's "Rain On The Windows Papers" - A Continuation

    Hobbit.... you are funny.

    Now they are shifting their focus, notice?

    This thread is in regard to the "Rain on the Window Papers". Where are they? Has anyone seen these who can attest to their existence?

    This is worth answering..... Jan Lofton has had the remainder of the papers that I had left in my posession. She has studied them carefully and we will broach the strangeness of that subject again sometime... its really quite confusing..... But you asked if anyone had SEEN them.... the answer is YES.... Jan and also Andrew Bolland in about 1988 or so... So there is your answer. You can contact them directly if you want.

    What does this have to do with being on the topic? Everything. Morgan, at least the character identified by Linda, never took any of the papers as she has claimed. If he didn't take them then did they ever exist in the manner that they were presented? I find it very convenient that some of the papers are missing from the original, taken by a man that doesn't exist and that very same man who was identified as being the non-existent person denies ever taking them. An inconsistency?

    Mikado.... you are losing it. <g>

    Therefore, if "Morgan" is not the person Linda claims he is, by his own admission to more than one individual, then how can they be discussed since he never took the missing papers? How can something be discussed when the origin, the validation of that which is being discussed is in question?
    Want to discuss them? Then discuss the "The Starseed Transmissions" by Ken Carey
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    We have done that already. It gets pretty fascinating.....The Starseed Transmissions however were posted AFTER my copies seem to have been written. How can that be? I don't have a clue!. Thats something we are just going to have to leave open until more information comes in our direction. and I am looking forward to that discussion here someday!

    Hobbit asks......
    So did Paul present all of this to mikado, or did mikado present it all to Paul?

    I can only report what I watched happening......they had that meeting in Pa.... first time that Paul and Mikado had ever met.... I was told..... but within a couple of weeks after that meeting Paul took six years of work and essentially threw it in a trash bin.... turning on me savagely as he did that.... and this is after we had worked together virtually every day for six years!
    What am I supposed to think, especially after watching Mikado continue the campaigne of nastyness so relentlessly....

    If Paul had gotten to the end of his rope and wanted to quit he could have called me and just told me that. If he doubted any information that he got from me in ANY direction .... he could have told me that..... if he doubted Morgans or Twigsnappers existance.... he could have expressed his concerns. He did NONE of that. At least BEFORE his meeting with Mikado.

    Not too long ago and responding to some of these rages by Mikado I actually contacted Paul and told him that it would be alright with me if he wanted to pull the book and rewrite it..(That message was posted on the Cosmic-Token" to share with everyone... I suggested...... if he truly believed that he had been misled and that the information that had anything to do with those " characters" was wrong.... that I would agree with him and work with him so that it could all be pulled. and he should start fresh....His response was that he was more inclined to leave it just the way it was....

    What does that tell you?

    And the big question is.... what part does Mikado have in this drama and why is he still so actively involving himself in all of this????

    It would be alright with me if Paul decided to do that.....pull every mention of my love affair with the man he called Morgan... pull all of the information that he had included about my private life......
    Actually Paul was ONLY supposed to write about my Dads life. He had no contract with me about including all of that information about Morgan and me....those parts were all almost directly from my personal journals ( and some of his correspondence with Morgan too....) and Paul admitted that AFTER he signed the contract with me he did allow the story to wander off into that story line and into my personal life..... because it was INTERESTING..... AND HE NEEDED IT..... The entire time he was including this story line he was assuring me that we would make " adjustments" during the " rewrite" and the final editing.... which I was looking forward to. That NEVER happened.
    After his meeting with Mikado Paul Schatzkin came home and almost two weeks later suddenly self published the story without even mentioning his plans to me! Unedited. Not one single line proofread. The kiss of death...
    . and this is something that I worked for six years to accomplish???? I was hurt.... and rightfully so.... I was mad.....But I was still willing to talk to Paul. We had a conversation.... I told him that this body of work that he had just published was like a newborn baby that he had just laid down in the snow.... and walked away from .... thats what it felt like to me.... that we had created this body of work that had so much potential if he would just FINISH it.... but instead he chose to abandon it like that. WHY I asked..... WHY did you do that? And the only thing that he could say in return was " I don't know."
    I realized at one point that he had not even bothered to put in the acknowledgement page. I insisted that he do that... there were many people that he needed to thank for their help....In fact I insisted that he do that.... through my lawyer.... and Paul realized that he had to comply or he would lose his contract with me.... so he ammended the book. You will see a note to that effect if you order the book on line.....after that Paul responded to me as if I was his deadliest enemy. We still do not communicate except through lawyers. Something that is actually quite alright with me. But in that Acknowledgment page he thanked both Morgan and Twigsnapper.

    So you ask.... was it Paul that soured out Mikado.... or the other way around.

    Considering that Mikado is still spewing the same poison that he fed to Paul.... I vote for that direction. Linda

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    Of course Pimander and Exterminator wouldn't know about all of this.... they talk and they ask silly questions.... but they don't read anything it seems. Linda

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    Re: Linda Brown's "Rain On The Windows Papers" - A Continuation

    Quote Originally Posted by Pimander View Post
    It isn't that hard to understand. Most (not all) of what Mikado has said makes sense.

    Pure bull. You have to be stupid NOT TO try to work out whether these people are real.

    Paul has been had in my opinion. As have several other people.

    Unless we have some evidence I am not correct. I don't see any.

    No Pimander I am not "STUPID" as YOU suggest.
    Mikado has always tried to be "CORRECT"
    We ( members of Pauls forum) held Him in high regard for years for exactly that.

    This is not about characters that are readily available to scrutiny, this whole subject is rightly guarded in secrecy by the best of the best, who I have the upmost respect for.
    I still have a similer respect for mikado, but the whole level of secrecy has overcome Mikado (who wants to be correct) in absolute paranoia, and it really annoys ya?

    Linda wonders how anything ( rain on windows papers) can be written down seemingly before they have supposedly been transmitted, well that where MEMORY comes into all of this, and all of the paranoia of where memory is missing from someone who thought they could access such and be correct.

    IF????, instead of acting as a clone of Mikado ,You want to explore what memory and time are part of, then maybe We could explore how people could appear to not exist in the memory of this here and now moment, but do in the local memory of individuals?

    It is though a subject that leads into the rabbit hole, and many can't handle it, as is evident.
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    Re: Linda Brown's "Rain On The Windows Papers" - A Continuation

    I have rarely heard such absolute nonsense in my life. For a start, Mikado claims to know it is Doc Brown's daughter and I can't even be sure he exists at this point. I am asking a question that is important to this topic. It's quite simple to anyone with half a brain. I'll explain it again....

    I do not know of any proof that Mikado, Linda or any of these people are real. I have seen no concrete evidence that Doc Brown's daughter really had anything to do with this. I concede she may have. However, to a sensible - dare I say professional - person, that information is of paramount importance.

    Any person reading this will know I am right. It is clearly a deflection tactic and the longer you carry on like this the less convincing you are. You can't even admit that I am right to do this.

    For a start, "Linda" just saying she has met up with "Captain Morgan"/"Jack Daniel's"/Dave "bottle of spirits" Patch, is meaningless when we don't even know for sure she is TT Brown's daughter. We know that according to Jan Lofton, these "rain on the windows papers" are identical to a book called the Starseed Transmissions by Ken Carey. However, conveniently, most of the papers were taken by what appears to be a fictional character based on someone she knew. Could we have the opportunity to inspect scans of these papers that, incidentally, were not written in TT Browns writing? I doubt it! How do we know they were seen before the Starseed Transmissions were written? We have....... wait for it........ "Linda Brown's" word for it. So who is Linda Brown? I don't know.


    You have asked me, "who has to provide proof of who they are when they write a bio?" Well I'll explain that too, not for Hobbit or "Linda" but for the readers who may actually want to get to the truth here.

    Normally, when a person writes an autobiography, we already know who they are and that they exist in reality. So if a baseball player, former president, scientist or whoever writes a book, we already know who they are. We know what they look like. They will probably do book signings and appear on TV to promote their work. Their story will be partly already known to the public with perhaps a few juicy revelations for their public the reader.

    Is the above situation what we have here? Frankly, no. What we have is stories about a guy, based on mainly the word of his alleged daughter who there appears to be little if any record of existing. She has not shown her face or verified who she is to any person except some people who may or may not be internet characters. It all could be true. That does not make it true.


    So where's the proof? There isn't any. If Linda Brown (not her name anyway) is really Doc Brown's daughter then she could, IF SHE WANTED TO END THE DRAMA, prove it. I don't think she will.

    Conclusion: "Linda" is a fraud or an attention seeker. Or she can prove me wrong. Which is it Linda/Missy/Elizabeth? Is it Elizabeth?
    Last edited by Pimander; November 19th, 2012 at 07:06 AM.

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    Re: Linda Brown's "Rain On The Windows Papers" - A Continuation

    Quote Originally Posted by Pimander View Post
    I have rarely heard such absolute nonsense in my life. For a start, Mikado claims to know it is Doc Brown's daughter and I can't even be sure he exists at this point. I am asking a question that is important to this topic. It's quite simple to anyone with half a brain. I'll explain it again....

    I do not know of any proof that Mikado, Linda or any of these people are real. I have seen no concrete evidence that Doc Brown's daughter really had anything to do with this. I concede she may have. However, to a sensible - dare I say professional - person, that information is of paramount importance.

    Any person reading this will know I am right. It is clearly a deflection tactic and the longer you carry on like this the less convincing you are. You can't even admit that I am right to do this.

    For a start, "Linda" just saying she has met up with "Captain Morgan"/"Jack Daniel's"/Dave "bottle of spirits" Patch, is meaningless when we don't even know for sure she is TT Brown's daughter. We know that according to Jan Lofton, these "rain on the windows papers" are identical to a book called the Starseed Transmissions by Ken Carey. However, conveniently, most of the papers were taken by what appears to be a fictional character based on someone she knew. Could we have the opportunity to inspect scans of these papers that, incidentally, were not written in TT Browns writing? I doubt it! How do we know they were seen before the Starseed Transmissions were written? We have....... wait for it........ "Linda Brown's" word for it. So who is Linda Brown? I don't know.


    You have asked me, "who has to provide proof of who they are when they write a bio?" Well I'll explain that too, not for Hobbit or "Linda" but for the readers who may actually want to get to the truth here.

    Normally, when a person writes an autobiography, we already know who they are and that they exist in reality. So if a baseball player, former president, scientist or whoever writes a book, we already know who they are. We know what they look like. They will probably do book signings and appear on TV to promote their work. Their story will be partly already known to the public with perhaps a few juicy revelations for their public the reader.

    Is the above situation what we have here? Frankly, no. What we have is stories about a guy, based on mainly the word of his alleged daughter who there appears to be little if any record of existing. She has not shown her face or verified who she is to any person except some people who may or may not be internet characters. It all could be true. That does not make it true.


    So where's the proof? There isn't any. If Linda Brown (not her name anyway) is really Doc Brown's daughter then she could, IF SHE WANTED TO END THE DRAMA, prove it. I don't think she will.

    Conclusion: "Linda" is a fraud or an attention seeker. Or she can prove me wrong. Which is it Linda/Missy/Elizabeth? Is it Elizabeth?
    I got ..CLONE of MIKADO spot on.

    You with zorgon/exterminator etc etc banned Me off the livingmoon forum because of this nonesense that YOU are perpetuating here on someone elses forum.

    That someone else has very clearly and with care explained all about it not mattering who anyone is etc etc.
    You are demonstrating pure left brain thinking, where everything must be correct and fit exactly into a reality YOU consider and assume is all there is.
    I obviously wasted My time offering to discuss time and memory.
    hobbit

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    Re: Linda Brown's "Rain On The Windows Papers" - A Continuation

    Readers, read my posts above.....

    What I have said is true. We don't know who this person claiming to be TT Brown's daughter is. We don't even know who "Mikado" is. How can telling the truth be nonsense?

    I hope I have at least helped give some of the readers of this thread a bit of perspective. I have pushed for something concrete and what has happened? More rubbish. Draw your own conclusions. From where I sit, we still know nothing except stories have been told. That is the reality here. The rest could be anything.

    So come on Elizabeth. Prove you are TT BBrown's daughter. :P

    ETA: The best of the best work for the US government. Really? LOL
    Last edited by Pimander; November 19th, 2012 at 07:27 AM.

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