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Thread: Connecting the dots between George Adamski, Thomas Townsend Brown and Linda Brown

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    Connecting the dots between George Adamski, Thomas Townsend Brown and Linda Brown

    Researching George Adamski and how I became aware of Linda Brown.

    March 22, 2013
    Having just finished a careful rereading of George Adamski’s 1961 book "Flying Saucers Farewell", I feel ready to enter the 'Lady of Light Forum', which is dedicated to Linda Brown’s issues, particularly her attempts to understand and evaluate (if not also validate) the work and intentions of her enigmatic father, Thomas Townsend Brown (TTB).

    On page 190, at the Conclusion of Adamski’s aforementioned book, he says:

    The knowledge shared by our space brothers must now be put to work. I have been advised to proceed in two fields that are vital to our progress—space philosophy and technology—which, we will learn, are inseparable in establishing a peaceful, productive society.

    The information conveyed to us must be put to peaceful productive use, that we might in time achieve the same dignified existence enjoyed by men of other planets.
    It appears to me, in reading early editions of Linda Brown’s memoirs, that TTB was in contact with the space brothers as early as 1928, well before Adamski’s first encounter with them in a southern California desert on November 20, 1952.

    First, I need to get this impression verified.

    Second, given the above quote by Adamski, I need to ask Linda why her father would have dealings with military people such as General Curtis LeMay, since Adamski’s space people made it clear that their intentions are strictly peaceful.

    Third, when did Adamski and TTB first meet--if they ever did?

    Fourth, how does the Mormon factor fit in—if it does?
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    Re: Connecting the dots between George Adamski, Thomas Townsend Brown and Linda Brown

    Hello Orpheo and welcome to Lady of Lights Forum. Thank you for taking an interest in my Dads work and efforts.

    I will answer your questions quickly at first and then try to come back in more detail later tonight.

    Are you asking my impression that Dad was in contact with " the Brothers" as early as in the twenties. I am not sure that he would have called the " Entities " by that name but he very particularly felt that somehow another intelligence was interacting with him through his dreams. Mother even spoke of that when I asked her about some of her first dates with Dad.... that he had told her that he was experiencing dreams and a flow of information that he could not explain.

    The " dealings" with Curtis LeMay came through Dads contact with a multimillionaire by the name of
    Floyd Odlum. Floyd owned a " holding company" by the name of ATLAS..... we can talk about this later but if it hadn't been for him this country would not have gotten into the space race. The early missiles were named ATLAS because of his influence and input.....As bombastic as Curtis LeMay was..... in Mr. Odlums company ( and I was pleased to see) in Dads company.... he was a puppydog. I am not sure what that said about the dynamics involved because I was never privy to that information.


    I was never told that they ever met.... but I suspect that they did. The little model disc that I remember playing with as a child Dad always called the Adamski Scout Ship.... ( you can see pictures of it in the oil bath test unit....I wasn't supposed to play with it... the year was 1953 though and it was neat..... I am not sure when the photo of that same ship was produced and honestly I can not tell you which came first... the chicken or the egg. I have always suspected that when Adamski mentioned meeting those who encouraged him to get a high powered telescope and to study one section of the sky carefully..... that one of those men was Dad... Unable to prove that yet.

    Computer is getting strange so I will get back to you on this before I lose everything! Welcome.. Linda

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    Of course I meant that I do not know if Adamski and my Dad ever met.... I do know that Adamski visited the Bahnson Lab just a few weeks after Dad left in 1958.... that is mentioned in the Bahnson Lab notes that were offered to me a couple of years ago. Agnew Bahnson spends half a page also lamenting the fact that " The Brothers" hadn't been in contact for awhile and he missed them.

    He also told J. Frank King.... his brother in law that the " Brothers" had told him to find Townsend Brown.... that he was the man that he needed for his project. I believe that Stan Deyo ( a film maker from Australia has J. Frank King on film saying that exact same thing.... that he had been " missioned" to find Townsend Brown and bring him in to help with the research. I haven't seen it for a very long time but I believe that the film was called " The Cosmic Conspiracy". Now if I press Post will it actually do that? Linda

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    Yea!!!!! As you will find .... I have a love hate relationship with my computer!!!! Linda

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    And as far as the "Mormon Factor" is concerned..... other than the fact that William Moore is rumored to be involved in a project regarding something to do with the Book of Mormon..... ( which has to be an odd combination for his interests and past history, doesn't it?) I REALLY don't have a clue.

    Anybody else out there know anything at all about what William Moore is doing now? And if you are reading this Bill.....please join us! Information is always more interesting first hand. Linda

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    Re: Connecting the dots between George Adamski, Thomas Townsend Brown and Linda Brown

    Linda, do you know about George Adamski Foundation? Managed by the Steckling family. Not sure how they came into possession of the Adamski material, but I have just viewed a 2008 film recommended by Glen Steckling, son of the late Fred Steckling, called "When the Earth Stood Still", a remake of a 1951 film of the same title. I have been in contact with Glen as of earlier today after having found him by accessing the George Adamski Foundation website and sending him an email, which he answered. More later with many more connecting dots!!

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    Orpheo3... that remake was good but NOTHING to compare with the original Michael Rennie (sp?) released in 1951. I was told by Beau Kitselman that Dad actually closed the entire lab so that all of the men working there could go to see that movie and that they all went together....

    Thats the only way that I know that Dad had 15 scientists working for him at the time.... because Beau mentioned that number....So I have always considered that Dad felt that first movie was so exceptional.
    I remember seeing it when we moved to Washington and I was so taken with it that I of course memorized his message to Gort.... still remember it.... Just in case!!!

    One of the men in that theatre party was Bradford Shank.... the man who was involved in the Manhattan Project during the war. Another strange connecting dot!

    I haven't contacted the Foundation but I am so very glad that someone is protecting the information that was available. My impression always was that Dad thought the man was quite a hero but he never explained to me why he felt that way. I am beginning to understand though now.... finally........ Linda

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    THAT HE HAD BEEN ADVISED

    MY QUESTION IS.....

    BY WHOM.


    And here we go Orpheo..... back to Charlotte.... and " Nassau"

    returning. returning, returning.

    And the odd thing is............... years and years later........... the message has not changed.
    Linda
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    Adamskis words again thanks to Orpheos quote from his book....

    "The knowledge shared by our space brothers must now be put to work. I have been advised to proceed in two fields that are vital to our progress—space philosophy and technology—which, we will learn, are inseparable in establishing a peaceful, productive society."

    And thats what needs to be discussed......" space philosophy"..... which I am sure has a vastly different meaning than we first expect and technology.... because as Logan once told me.... "We are hovering right now on the edge of the same important development that fire was to the caveman. Nothing less than that."

    And I have resigned myself to the idea that this is not something that will happen overnight and if it means that many will spend their lives seeing to this successful changeover.... then they will be lives well spent. Linda

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    Re: Connecting the dots between George Adamski, Thomas Townsend Brown and Linda Brown

    OK, Linda, here we have something very specific to focus on: "Space philosophy and technology"!

    Having lived in legendary Los Alamos for almost 20 years now, I seem to be in a unique position to have such discussions with scientific movers and shakers in this historic, notorious town. I will look for an opening.

    Glen Steckling called me an hour ago and left a VOX when I did not pick up (thinking the call was from a friend whom we could call back later). He will call again at the end of this coming week. However, before he and I talk, let's see if we can get some more dots connected. I will start with where I was when the 1951 film of "When the Earth Stood Still" was first released, which was in Phoenix, having just graduated from high school. And then, when Adamski was first contacted by ETs (Nov 20, 1952), I was a freshman at BYU just before joining the US Army in early 1953, which you know about. Then, when Adamski went on his world tour in 1959, I was an engineering student at UC Berkeley, having previously had a classified, clandestine assignment at the Berlin Tunnel, which your father visited in March 1956. The 'pop-up' messages I mentioned to you in our private correspondence seem to be relevant here. Until you told me about your father's visit to the tunnel and speculated on a different source of that information, I had concluded that it came from closet KGB Orthodox believers. However, your theory makes more sense!

    I know this exchange may seem quite crazy to some readers, but it's worth risking, I think.

    During this next week and before my conversation with Steckling, I intend to flesh out two lines of consideration: 1) dreams as a legitimate source of ET info; 2) what I see as "the Mormon factor". Perhaps you can contact Charlotte Bloget?

    Also, I'd like to review the four significant dreams you have already shared with me, which I believe are loaded with insights!

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