Nighthawke

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I wrote the following piece as a counter-argument tosome right-winger who insisted that 9-11 (in spite ofthe blatant and obvious evidence) wasn't a governmentconspiracy because conspiracies simply don't exist. Assuch, I'm trying to put together a list of all of thewell-known and largely acknowledged conspiracies.Also, if you know of any good quotes from the rulingelite that indicate their knowledge and acceptance ofconspiracy that, too, would be quite helpful. And don't forget to keep a copy of these conspiraciesfor the next time you run into someO'Reilly/Hannity/Limbaugh clone that embraces whateverauthority figures tell them without engaging in anycritical thinking on their own.--------------------------Firstly, conspiracy is a realty not a theory. Ournation's history is packed so full of conspiraciesthat it is utterly ridiculous to pretend that theydon't exist. In fact, many people go to prisonevery year convicted of conspiracy (most of themRepublicans). The Bush cabal hardly goes a weekwithout being involved in some type of conspiracy. TheU.S. Attorney's purge immediately comes to mind butthe entire push for war against Iran is a conspiracy.Iran possessing nuclear weapons is hardly the realissue. Obviously, Iran couldn't use a nuclear weaponwithout ensuring their own destructionby a much superior, rogue nuclear force -- the U.S.The issue regarding Iran is one of imperialistdomination. The U.S. has targeted much of the MiddleEast for its own imperialist interests.Were Iran to develop nuclear weapons it would ensurethat Iran would not be subject to that imperialistdomination.Other recent conspiracies of note include the Enronconspiracy and the Jack Abramoff scandal. Both ofwhich involved members of the Bush cabal. Among themost well-known recent conspiracies are the2000 election, 9-11 (9-11 is a conspiracy even if thegovernment's account is taken at face value -- which,of course, it shouldn't be), Iraq has weapons of massdestruction, the 2004 election, Iran contra, CIAintroducing crack cocaine into the impoverished Blackneighborhoods of Los Angeles, Watergate, the Watergatecover-up, the Savings and Loan scandal, Gulf of Tonkin(never happened), the JFK assassination, the JFKassassination cover-up Cointelpro, MKULTRA, Rooseveltencouraged the attack on Pearl Harbor and knew theJapanese were coming, Nixon/Kissinger involvement inthe overthrow of Salvadore Allende and installation ofPinochet, Kermit Roosevelt and the overthrow of Iran'sdemocratically elected leader Mohammed Mossadeq, thecreation of the Federal Reserve(a private entitycreated and organized under tremendous secrecydesigned to enrich a handful of bankers), the RobberBaron's and their accumulation of great wealth byconspiring with politicians to loot the treasuryduring the building of the railroad. Other, longforgotten conspiracies include the Credit MobilierScandal and the Teapot Dome scandal. And I'm surethere are many, many more.Additionally, a 9-11 type of false-flag terrorismevent was previously planned in the the U.S. OperationNorthwoods, or Northwoods, was a 1962 plan by the USDepartment of Defense to cause acts of simulated orreal terrorism and violence on US soil or against USinterests, blamed on Cuba, in order to generate U.S.public support for military action against the Cubangovernment of Fidel Castro. As part of the U.S.government's Operation Mongoose anti-Castroinitiative, the plan, which was not implemented,called for various false flag actions, includingsimulated or real state-sponsored acts of terrorism(such as hijacked planes) on U.S. and Cuban soil. Theplan was proposed by senior U.S. Department of Defenseleaders, including the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs ofStaff Lyman Louis Lemnitzer.These quotes by people in positions to know are quiterevealing of the fact that we live in a worlddominated by conspiracies among the well-connected andpowerful wealthy elite. -----------------------"In politics, nothing happens by accident. If ithappens, you can bet it was planned that way." -Franklin D. Roosevelt “Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men'sviews confided to me privately. Some of the biggestmen in the United States —in the fields of commerceand manufacturing—are afraid of somebody. They knowthat there is a power somewhere so organized, sosubtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, sopervasive, that they had better not speak above theirbreath when they speak in condemnation of it.” -Woodrow Wilson “A financial element in the large centers has ownedthe government since the days of Andrew Jackson.” -Franklin Roosevelt “We are on the verge of a global transformation. Allwe need is the right major crisis and the nations willaccept the New World Order.” - David Rockefeller “Today, America would be outraged if UN troops enteredLos Angeles to restore order. Tomorrow they will begrateful! This is especially true if they were toldthat there was an outside threat from beyond, whetherreal or promulgated, that threatened our veryexistence. It is then that all people of the worldwill plead to deliver them from this evil. The onething every man fears is the unknown. When presentedwith this scenario, individual rights will bewillingly relinquished for the guarantee of theirwell-being granted to them by the world government.” -Henry Kissinger (Bilderburg Conference 1991 Evians,France) “Naturally the common people don't want war…but afterall, it is the leaders of the country who determinepolicy, and it is always a simple matter to drag thepeople along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascistdictatorship, or a parliament, or a communistdictatorship…all you have to do is to tell them theyare being attacked, and denounce the pacifists forlack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger.It works the same way in any country.” Herman Goering( One of Hitler's top men, during the NurembergTrials) The individual is handicapped by coming face to facewith a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe itexists. - Edgar J Hoover In 1913, Woodrow Wilson signed the Federal ReserveAct. A few years later he wrote: "I am a most unhappyman. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A greatindustrial nation is controlled by its system ofcredit. Our system of credit is concentrated. Thegrowth of the nation, therefore, and all ouractivities are in the hands of a few men. We have cometo be one of the worst ruled, one of the mostcompletely controlled and dominated Governments in thecivilized world no longer a Government by freeopinion, no longer a Government by conviction and thevote of the majority, but a Government by the opinionand duress of a small group of dominant men."The easiest way to gain control of the population isto carry out acts of terror. The public will clamorfor such laws if the personal security is threatened.- Joseph Stalin The real rulers of Washington are Invisible andexercise power from behind the scenes. - Justice FelixFrankfurter - US Supreme Court Justice The real menace of our Republic is the invisibleGovernment which like a giant Octopus, sprawls itsslimy legs over our cities, states, and nation. - JohnF. Hylan - Mayor NYC 1918-1925 "Give me control of a Nation's money and I care notwho makes the laws." - Mayer Amschel Bauer(Rothschild) "We shall have World Government. Whether or not welike it. The only Question is whether World Governmentwill be achieved by conquest or consent." - James PaulWarburg , Foreign agent for the Rothschild dynasty -Major Player in the Federal Reserve act scam / Feb.17, 1950 speaking before the U.S. Senate. "We are grateful to the Washington Post, the NY Times,Time Magazine, and other great publications whosedirectors have attended our meetings, and respectedtheir promises of discretion for almost 40 years. Itwould have been impossible for us to develop OUR PLANfor the world if we had been subjected to the lightsof publicity during those years. But, the world is nowmore sophisticated and prepared to march towards aWorld Government. The supranational sovereignty of anintellectual ELITE and World Bankers is surelypreferable to the national auto - determinationpracticed in past centuries." - David Rockefeller CFRKingpin, Founder of the Trilateral Commission, NOWGodfather / June 1991 "It is well enough that people of the nation do notunderstand our Banking and Monetary system, for ifthey did, I believe there would be a Revolution beforetomorrow morning." - Henry Ford "For more than a century, ideological extremists ateither end of the political spectrum have seized uponwell-publicized incidents to attack the Rockefellerfamily for the inordinate influence they claim wewield over American political and economicinstitutions. Some even believe we are part of asecret cabal working against the best interests of theUnited States, characterizing my family and me as'internationalists' and of conspiring with othersaround the world to build a more integrated globalpolitical and economic structure - one world, if youwill. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I amproud of it." - David Rockefeller, Memoirs , 2002 “Every time we do something, you tell me America willdo this and will do that . . . I want to tell yousomething very clear: Don't worry about Americanpressure on Israel . We, the Jewish people, controlAmerica , and the Americans know it.” - Ariel Sharon ,October 3, 2001 "I came to America because of the great, great freedomwhich I heard existed in this country. I made amistake in selecting America as a land of freedom, amistake I cannot repair in the balance of mylifetime." - Albert Einstein, 1947 "I believe that banking institutions are moredangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Ifthe American people ever allow private banks tocontrol the issue of their currency, first byinflation, then by deflation, the banks andcorporations that will grow up around [the banks] willdeprive the people of all property until theirchildren wake-up homeless on the continent theirfathers conquered. The issuing power should be takenfrom the banks and restored to the people, to whom itproperly belongs." -- Thomas Jefferson1941: On November 25, 1941, two weeks before theJapanese attack on Pearl Harbor, Secretary of WarHenry Stimson (S&B, CFR) wrote about his meeting withPresident Roosevelt that day. He stated that theRoosevelt Administration was trying to see how theycould maneuver the Japanese into firing the first shotin order to bring the United States into the war. Hewrote: "There the President . . . brought up entirelythe relations with the Japanese. He brought up theevent that we were likely to be attacked perhaps nextMonday, for the Japanese are notorious for making anattack without warning, and the question was what weshould do. The question was how we should maneuverthem into the position of firing the first shotwithout allowing too much danger to ourselves."
 

septembersong

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Of course we MAY all be pawns on some Creator's gigantic chessboard. Or we may not be. The thing is, we are not calling the moves. I am not in charge. Therefore, I do what I can and don't worry about the rest.
 

Rocco

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I surely can. But here it's shortly before midnight.Not today hun. Generally I'd suggest to create a web site in such cases and offering a link.
 

Mentat

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Who cares? The World should have spectacularly blown up ten different times in the twentieth century alone. We'll live.
 

glowbyte

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Shut up and pay your taxes and die. You shouldn't be asking questions, now you're labeled as a nut case "conspiracy theorist", along with all the other kooks that dare to ask the wrong questions, or those who wake up in a cold sweat from the "American Dream".The men behind the curtains no longer use blatant tactics, instead they use self censorship, or "public opinion", so if you step out of line, all the other sheep will label you as a nut. Looking at other answers here, it seems to be working great. So good in fact, that most people reading this will think I'm a nut too.Scratch the surface just a little, and you find Democracy and America isn't what it seems. Sit back and watch the dollar get tanked to make way for the North American Union and the Amero currency. Look it up you nay sayers, you'll find there is truth to it.
 

NGC6205

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Yes, I can add to it. Are any of the ones you listed based on fact? no. You admonish others to think for themselves, but you just regurgitate theories thought up by pseudo-scientists, out-of-context quotes and at least one quote that was almost entirely made-up. Good luck on the fruitcake fringe.
 

herfinator

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It is precisely the attitude of those that don't care that enable this type of stuff to continue. The only problem with exposing it is A) nobody really wants to believe it, except those that know it's true, B) it will (does) get discredited immediately, C), anyone that gets near enough information to do any kind of major damage, someone will already know before they get halfway there, and they will be silenced, D), you know it has to be at least partially tied to or based in religion of some kind, and nobody (except those in R&S) really wants to argue about religion any more than they have to.I did a project on JFK (yeah, I know, obvious conspiracy), for a History class in college. I swear, I waited to go in to class until I saw that everyone was there, and nobody different, b/c I was sincerely afraid of getting shot. I mean, c'mon -- the Warren Commission contradicts itself, and it's the "basis" of the whole freakin' case!Have a great night!
 

rz1971

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how about this:the conspiracy conspiracy theory. The US government is feeding all these comspiracies, 9/11, rosewell, kennedy, moon landing, etc., to keep everyone fooled so they don't know what is really going on. In other words keep everyones attention on the left hand (conspiracies) so they don't look at the right hand.
 
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