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    Re: pegasus living moon

    Thank you Linda. You don't need to apologize for being away.

    I will not be side-tracked by anyone. Unfortunately, bickering is the only way some people know how to communicate.

    To you all, I hold no ill-will or have any bad feelings toward any of you. I hold an open forum free for all opinion and for that which is presented as fact at the time.

    Exterminator, I can see no reason for editing or removing any of the above posts/statements. Unfortunately for you (and Zorgon, and Living Moon website), and fortunately for Hobbit, what was stated is in such a way that it cannot be considered slander or liable. Yes, Hobbit did write in the last name of Von Schmidt, and associated that last name with the user Zorgon, however a last name isn't giving any personal information about anyone as there are many people with that last name. Hobbit also states that the methods being used are of the zionists and nazis. Hobbit has been careful on how things are worded here; I don't know how he/she has worded things on other sites, but here hobbit has been choosing his/her words carefully so I cannot remove anything that has been said.

    I run this forum so that others may have a free say for their opinions/thoughts without harm to anyone. I am sorry if egos have been bruised, but I must run things in a legal manner. That being said, the opinions of Hobbit and any others on this forum will remain as long as they are within legal limits.


    Linda,
    I will be posting for our conversation on those papers and anything related over on this thread:
    Linda Brown's "Rain On The Windows Papers" - A Continuation

    I haven't had any images recently, however, I have been feeling that I should be focusing in that area. I'm feeling the pull, lol. I'll post when I get more info passed my way.


    Everyone,
    Please, there is no need for fighting and arguing. This is meant to be a peaceful place to discuss. It happens to be the land of the 'misfits', lol. Members of other sites tend to gravitate here. And we accept everyone here!
    Go through your life with love and light, and nothing can truly harm you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady of Light View Post
    Exterminator, I can see no reason for editing or removing any of the above posts/statements. Unfortunately for you (and Zorgon, and Living Moon website), and fortunately for Hobbit, what was stated is in such a way that it cannot be considered slander or liable. Yes, Hobbit did write in the last name of Von Schmidt, and associated that last name with the user Zorgon, however a last name isn't giving any personal information about anyone as there are many people with that last name. Hobbit also states that the methods being used are of the zionists and nazis. Hobbit has been careful on how things are worded here; I don't know how he/she has worded things on other sites, but here hobbit has been choosing his/her words carefully so I cannot remove anything that has been said.
    Oh that is fine... I merely said you may remove my posts if you wished. I can see that you will allow negativity because someone carefully words a response. LMAO Well that is interesting and shows your true intent. Zionist and Nazi tactics? Because we chose to limit members to invited guests on a private forum? Really? Wow.

    Well you are free to run your house as you see fit And threads like this are actually good advertizement because people LOVE drama and come visit to see what all the fuzz is about

    You say you have an open forum dedicated to truth... yet you allow any member to state things that are not fact, but merely inflammatory rhetoric. Your choice, but what kind of message does that send about YOUR forum? Law of Attraction... you reap what you sow.... I wish you luck



    I run this forum so that others may have a free say for their opinions/thoughts without harm to anyone. I am sorry if egos have been bruised, but I must run things in a legal manner. That being said, the opinions of Hobbit and any others on this forum will remain as long as they are within legal limits.
    Ah yes... must keep to those legal limits... just toss in any insults 'under the wire' worded 'correctly' and your okay. LMAO Comical really... but it will come back to bite you, because once you open the door to such behavior, you open the floodgates.


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    Re: pegasus living moon

    No comment.
    Hobbit( him)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linda Brown View Post
    You HAVE to be kidding , right?
    Alls well in the world kiddos... This is Linda Brown, rightful heir to the Thomas Townsend Brown legacy...
    I am Linda Ann Brown ( Dad wanted a LAB at the time.... I guess in December of 1945 I had to do!!! <g>)
    My brothers name was Joseph Townsend Brown.... he was proud of his name and his legacy too though he chose to go into sports instead of science. ....
    No actually I was NOT kidding. In fact your sudden appearance here at this forum just after that was posted AND your registration at Zorgon's temporary forum is proof we touched a nerve.

    Even wikipedia, usually a great source of info, has no record of TT Brown having any kids. There are no photos showing he had any kids and none of the ancestry site show any record.

    Brown was born in Zanesville, Ohio; his parents were Lewis K. and Mary Townsend Brown. We can trace all his ancestors from there but nothing about any children.

    It is easy for someone on the internet to claim to be anyone at all. But lets see some proof... Where are the baby photos? Where are the birth records? Inviting people to your forum to tell them who you are is not good enough

    We also found that you were registered as Elizabeth Helen Drake on the Pegasus Yahoo energy group almost since the beginning. At the time we did not know that Elizabeth Helen Drake was aka Linda Brown... That account has been terminated as well... not that it matters as that site has been moved to the now main forum. But interesting that you were lurking on that group as well and now you and hobbit trying to rejoin the site.

    It is interesting that this was about the same time that Dr Hal Puthoff stopped by the Pegasus yahoo energy group. He is the one who says TT Brown told him his research was a dead end and not to waste any time on it ( and THAT is recorded for anyone to look up) Make one wonder if Elizabeth Drake is just another alias for Dr. Elizabeth A. Rauscher

    I seem to recall you mentioning connections to her on Zorgon's site... It begins to become clear now

    If you hate us so much. why do you keep bothering with us? We had completely forgotten about you two until Fruitbat asked us to let you back in... then we were sent this thread. And Hobbit attacking John and Dr Pari Spolter at GLP? Seriously? You people have some serious issues.

    Well When Pari was introduced at Pegasus before she even had a chance to post and state her views, our dear Hobbit rudely attacked her ideas and spammed the thread with his nonsense. Way to go guys... you did have the effect of having her not wish to post in open public areas... I guess you can pat yourselves on the back for that eh?

    To any seeker of real truth....

    You might find it a good idea to not just take ANYONE'S word for it on who they claim to be... A simple check of credentials is always a wise move...

    To Linda;

    Pics or it ain't so

    To Hobbit:

    Zorgon wants to know if you have any old swords in that antique shop of yours. He is always looking for more. We have a member living close to you that has offered to pick them up if you do
    Last edited by Exterminator; November 6th, 2012 at 01:41 PM.

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    Re: pegasus living moon

    No comment.....no need.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady of Light View Post
    Everyone,
    Please, there is no need for fighting and arguing. This is meant to be a peaceful place to discuss.
    I was never here, you did not see me, just look at this

    pegasus   living moon-flashsm-gif

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    The man with the flashing light is Raymond Lavas. He is a noted mathematician working on the fields of Thomas Townsend Brown and also the man who has translated the French experiments on my Dads work in 1956. His name and his face and his credentials are out there for anyone to see.

    And I agree with you wholeheartedly Exterminator

    "You might find it a good idea to not just take ANYONE'S word for it on who they claim to be... A simple check of credentials is always a wise move...

    A check on who they are..... and why they hold certain agendas is certainly important. Of course I understand being cautious but to rabidly insist that my Dad had NO CHILDREN is not only ludicrous it borders on revealing a dangerous agenda of misinformation and divisiveness.... plus.... just being plain RUDE.

    People with the name of Zorgon and Exterminator are asking me to prove my authenticity? and stating that my brother and I did not exist according to their research? I pity the people that they do research for then.... Unless of course that has nothing to do with it and the only reason to present such irritating rubble is to cause dissention and waste our time.

    I agree with you Exterminator. When you and your father step forward and prove who you actually are.... then I will have more respect for you. After the apology though that Zorgon has promised when he has been proven wrong. You really should be more careful gathering your research because it reflects badly on his name and I WOULD THINK if you are actually his daughter.... that you would worry about that.

    lINDA

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    And a note about the character of Elizabeth Helen Drake. When Paul Schatzkin started writing my Dads biography in 2003 he and I decided that I should present myself as EHD in most of our research correspondence. I used it as my pen name because both of us felt that we would get a more relaxed reaction from people he was interviewing if they thought that I was just his research assistant and not Townsend Browns daughter. I wanted them to feel free to say anything about Dad.... even if it turned out to be negative. I never had that experience luckily but had to bite my tongue a few times when so called " experts" spouted off about things that I knew were patently false....

    I became the hostess of Pauls ttbrown Forum and was there for years while he compiled the book. Some of the really astute forum members figured out who I was pretty quickly. Even my initials were meant as a big clue ( EHD Electrohydrodynamics.... my Dads chosen field.) When Paul was finished with the book I then announced myself but most of the folks on the forum said basically.... "yeah, with winks and smiles.. "we knew it was you all the time!"

    I fail to see where I should be made to feel ashamed of that now. Especially by a person who calls herself the " Exterminator" and someone who obviously does not know the first thing about being her Dads proper "research assistant". To hand him faulty information the way she has is really a very bad reflection on BOTH of them but primarily on her personally. Thats just my studied opinion.

    Linda
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    I just thought that those who really enjoy real biographical research might enjoy seeing this outline, done for us by a friend living out of the country. Some of the information needs to be updated but you will see that he covers many bases ..... Including the birth of Dads children! Take a look and note how exhaustive the study is....

    Exterminator if you are really interested in helping your Dad THIS would be the kind of work required of you.

    OOPPs.....

    I don't think that I have enough posts yet to be able to post the link....I will come back to this if I can and perhaps I can post a small section just to give you an idea of how detailed the outline was ( backed up of course by proper paperwork. It makes me tired just thinking of the work that was involved in putting it together.... but thats the kind of thing that has to be done......

    I note that Pegasus has also drawn from Wikipedia...in the section about my Dad there are several serious mistakes. Wouldn't you want to correct your work Exterminator or is that not the thrust of your interest>



    Linda

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    1905-1921 Zanesville, Ohio Early childhood
    1921-1923 Zanesville, Ohio Doane Academy
    Radio experiments
    Met Lee DeForest
    1923-1924 Pasadena, Calfornia California Institute of Technology
    First ideas about gravitational radiation
    Rejected by Robert Millikan
    Home lab
    1924-1926 Zanesville, Ohio Denison Uiversity
    Met Paul Biefeld
    1926-1928 Zanesville, Ohio TTB courts Josephine Beale
    September 8, 1928 Zanesville, Ohio TTB and Josephine marry
    November 15, 1928 Cellular gravitator patent
    1929-1930 Zanesville, Ohio Early married life
    Experiments with L. K. Brown
    Stock Market crash
    Eldridge Johnson endowment to University of Pennsylvania for medical research
    August 1929 "How I Control Gravitation"
    Science and Invention magazine
    October 29, 1929 stock market crash
    December 4, 1929 TTB writes to Navy
    June 24-25, 1930 TTB demonstration for General Motors
    August 1930 affidavit from Paul Biefeld about rotating Biefeld-Brown effect and sidereal fluctuations
    1930-1933 TTB in the Navy - active duty
    September 3, 1930 TTB enlists in Navy at Cleveland, Ohio, basic training at Great Lakes Training Station
    November 22, 1930 TTB is Honor Recruit, candidate for San Diego Navy Radio Training School
    TTB is given orders to Naval Research Laboratory
    February 26, 1931 TTB donates equipment to NRL
    3 March 1931 TTB is assistant to officer in charge of radio school
    March 16, 1931 TTB reports to NRL Anacostia, DC
    January 1932 TTB is offered position on S-48 Vening Meinesz Navy-Princeton Gravity Expedition to West Indies, or Admiral Byrd's International Polar Expedition to Point Barrow, Alaska. Chooses S-48. "Superior skills as a lab man". Rank: Seaman First Class.
    February 3, 1932 Earthquake in Santiago, Cuba. TTB rescues Vening Meinesz from rubble Other person helping in the rescue was a companion Harry Hess. future name in sonar development and Undersea explorations. 7 February - 17 March 1932 - S-48 gravity cruise, Cuba-Miami. Future admiral Hyman Rickover on board.
    Spring 1932 TTB assigned to Physical Optics Division, recommended for higher pay scale
    June-August 1932 Letter exchange, infighting over TTB's science posting. NRL personnel want him with them, Senators write on his behalf, Bureau of Navigation wants him to serve sea time, TTB proposes "mechanical reaction on fluids" study, Chief of Bureau of Engineering overrules Navigation
    January 23 - early March 1933 Johnson-Smithsonian Deep Sea Expedition on Eldridge Johnson's yacht Caroline. TTB is radar/sonar operator. First called 'Dr Brown'. Docks at Nassau, William Stephenson believed to have met TTB. Meets Florence Douglass. Expedition terminated due to financial panic over FDR's 'Bank Holidays'.
    February 20, 1933 Orville Brown, 72, falls or jumps out a window - Brown family fortune almost all gone
    April 18,1933 TTB promoted to Lieutenant (junior grade)
    April/May 1933 TTB dismissed from active duty status owing to Navy budget cutbacks. Senator Robinson appeals on his behalf but is not successful.
    1933-1938 TTB inactive from Navy "pending establishment of Gravity Section of Hydrographic Office, special projects in relief work, harbour protection on Lake Erie"
    1934 (via Morgan) TTB demonstrates something at Nassau for Alfred Loomis and British Admiralty Loomis later continues development of instruments
    13 March 1934 son Joseph Brown born
    1 March 1936 TTB recruits for covert-sounding Dutch East Indies "scientific" expedition. Sidereal investigations continue - Fleming, Gish, Miller, Maris
    Spring 1936 - May 1937 TTB and Josephine develop Hawthorne farm into Hawthorne Pool
    24 December 1936 TTB finger amputation reported after "accident at Wise Foundry"
    3 December 1937 TTB and Josephine divorce
    January 1938 Townsend Brown Foundation set up
    22 March 1938 TTB requests housing for instruments at Denison, Denison trustees decline
    1938-1942 TTB active in Navy again
    April 1938 TTB applies for full Lieutenant
    20 June - 30 September 1938 TTB on USS Nashville shakedown cruise and "goodwill tour" - Carribbean, Philadelphia, France, Germany, Sweden, England. Loads $50 million of gold bullion in Portsmouth, for Chase Manhattan bank in New York.
    10 June 1939 TTB reports he has built a sidereal radiation detector for University of Pennsylvania
    1 September 1939 WW2 starts
    1938 - 1940 Josephine serves at Bethesda Hospital as a nurse, then works as a courier in Washington DC for William Stephenson via Evelyn McBarnet
    10 June 1940 TTB reports job as materials and processing engineer for Glenn Martin in Baltimore, flying boats
    19 September 1940 TTB and Josephine remarry. Josephine is District Supervisor of WPA houskeeping aid project
    1 October 1940 31 March 1941 - TTB reports occupation as acoustic and magnetic mine sweeping and design
    7 December 1941 USA enters WW2
    early 1942 TTB is Radio Officer, Ship's Service Officer and Educational Officer at Atlantic Fleet Radar School Norfolk, Virginia.
    28 July 1942 TTB ordered to ship equipment to Radar School
    30 September 1942 TTB resigns from Navy
    1943-1945 Vega
    November 1942 TTB moves into Wonderland Drive, Los Angeles and starts work at Vega (Lockheed). Working with Bradford Shank
    1 December 1942 Vega notebook - UHF antenna and 'Structure of Space'
    1945 Germany
    12 April 1945 FDR dies, TTB immediately called into occupied Germany to retrieve technology for Caroline/Nassau, Halifax bomber NA337, Accompanied by Twigsnapper/O'Riley/Boston as bodyguard (associated with John Godfrey's 30th Assault Unit?), Suggestion that the rumours of underground Nazi research facilities in Bavaria were true, Crosses path with Howard Campaigne's US Army TICOM unit, and Robert Sarbacher's unit working for British Director of Naval Intelligence, Shot in the lung during botched scientist retrieval. Unnamed German scientist is dead. Convalesces at a classified US Army hospital in the UK near Farm Hill, Sarbacher and O'Riley rescue Richard Miethe from Soviet internment camp with Hans Von Luck's assistance.
    1945- 1947 Laguna Beach, Los Angeles Sometime here Bradford Shank produces very early anti-nuclear documentary "Where Will You Hide?"
    June 1945 Josephine moves to Laguna Beach
    August 1945 TTB returns to Laguna Beach and continues recovering, "The Rain on the Window papers" written sometime around here? (Those pages were dated 1944)
    11 December 1945 daughter Linda Ann Brown born

    Its alot of work and there is still more to be done. This was just an outline and I stopped at my birthday. THATS the kind of work that you have to do Exterminator... and thats just scratching the surface. Each note there represents alot of paperwork which backs it up. For example.... My Mom and Dads divorce ( I never knew about it until this flow of information came in our direction.) and I have been told that I probably have another years work just to uncover the events that are just barely touched here or not even mentioned at all.

    Linda

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