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    Chavez, oil and the ‘Ketchup Revolution’

    Yesterday, Argentine president Cristina Fernandez visited Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez in Havana hospital to show her respect and support for Chavez who is recovering from a cancer surgery in his pelvic region done on December 11, 2012.

    “I came with the intention to show support and respect for a great friend of Argentina, Hugo Chavez,” she said.

    On Friday, Peruvian president Ollanta Humala was in Havana to show his respect and support for Hugo Chavez. Both Fernandez and Humala also met Venezuelan VP and acting president Nicolas Maduro in Havana.

    On January 4, 2013, Iranian president Dr. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad called VP Nicolas Maduro on phone to enquire about Chavez health while wishing him a fast recovery.

    I’m sure, the Zionist TV evangelist Rev. Pat Robertson, must be praying for Hugo’s death based on his 2005 rant.”Hugo Chavez thinks we are trying to assassinate him. I think we really ought to go ahead and do it. This is a dangerous enemy to our south controlling a huge pool of oil. We don’t need a another 200 billion dollar war (Iraq). It’s whole lot easier to have some of the covert operatives (CIA, Mossad) to do the job and then get over with“.

    Robertson is not known for the Christian mercy. He advised one of his listener in 2011 to divorce his terminal sick wife and start a new life. When it comes to Venezuelan oil reserve, Robertson was right. Venezuela holds recoverable oil reserves of 1.36 trillion barrels – more than American ‘cash-cow’, Saudi Arabia.

    On April 11, 2002, when president Chavez was kidnapped at gunpoint and flown to an island prison – US Jewish ambassador in Havana, Charles Samuel Shapiro, was the first foreign diplomat who rushed to meet Pedro Carmona, the new president appointed by US oil cartel. Shapiro now heads the ‘Institute of the Americas’, a pro-Israel think tank.

    What Robertson could not mention the other reason for his hatred toward Chavez – the western plantation owners and the Jewish Koch Brothers. Venezuela has millions of acres of unused land owned by US companies. One of them happens to be America’s powerful Heinz ketchup family empire, established by Henry J. Heinz, a German Jew. Senator John Kerry’s wife since 1995, Thersea Theirstein Heinz, is widow of Republican Senator John Heinz. She has three sons from her first marriage and two daughters from her second marriage. She owns the Heinz empire. Senator John Kerry is Barack Obama’s nominee for the US secretary of state. Heinz reported a sale of $11.6 billion last year.

    The Koch Brothers empire is worth $100 billion. It was setup by Harry Koch, a Jewish immigrant from Holland in Texas in 1888. Currently, it’s run by his two grandsons, Charles and David Koch. The Koch Industries is reportedly involved in oil/gas trading with Venezuela, Argentina, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Iran, Algeria, Morocco, India and Nigeria. However, Koch Brothers became “evildoers” when Zionconservative Bloomberg Markets Magazine reported in October 2011 about their “secret and illegal” dealings with Tehran.

    Lee Fang reported in The Nation on December 22, 2012 that after failing in his $125 million quest to oust Barack Obama, David Koch threatened American lawmakers to vote against aid to victims of Hurricane Sandy.

    Chavez was born into a poor family of school teachers. As a good baseball player, he got a scholarship to study at Venezuelan Military Academy. After completing the degree course in Military Science and Engineering, Ch’avez joined the Army. In 1992, he was jailed for two years for his part in the failed military coup against pro-American Perez government. He was first elected President of the country in 1998. His revolutionary policies in controlling the country’s wealth irked the multi-national foreign corporations. Washington tried to bring a regime-change, but failed miserably. Chavez was re-elected in 2000, survived a coup in 2002 and emerged victorious from a recall vote in 2004. After Israeli invasion of Gaza Strip in December 2008 – Hugo Chavez kicked out Israeli Ambassador from Venezuela. During his address to UN General Assembly in September 2009, Chavez blasted the Zionist entity and Washington’s blind support for the Zionazi thugs – making the US and Israeli diplomats to walk-out during his speech. Hugo Chavez also support Tehran’s right to use nuclear technology for civilian purpose. Last year Chavez won his fourth term by defeaing his Crypto-Jewish opponent, Henrique Capriles Radonski by receiving 55% of the total vote cast.

    Ben Cohen, in an article titled ‘Chavez and the Jews’ at Jewish JNS Org. on January 4, 2013 spilled his Jewish hatred toward Chavez for supporting Hamas, Hizballah, Iran – his critism of Israel and expeling Israeli ambassador in 2009.

    “In attacking Israel, though, Chavez inadvertentally under mine the arguments of thos who say that anti-Zionism is one thing, anti-Semitism something else entirely. In many ways, Chavez’s attitude to Israel mirrored that of the Soviet Union. Just as the USSR marked its own Jews out as a fifth column during its decades-long propaganda against Zionism, so did Chavez,” wrote Cohen. I doubt very much if Cohen would like to know that five of Russia’s six top billionaires belong to his so-called “fifth column” – plus Zionist entity’s first president Dr. Chaim Wiezmann was a Zionist Jew from USSR. In reality, USSR and the Communist Party had always been controlled by the Jews. Find the proof here.

    As the saying goes: “In the old day, antisemitism meant hating Jews, however, now antisemitism means whom Jews hate”. Adam Bilzerian has defined ‘Anti-Semitism’ excellently here.

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    Quote, "Jewish Koch Brothers"


    You're wrong, they are Scottish and German by descent, national origins, and Mormon by religion.

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    If wrong on that point... what else is off? Linda

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    Well, Linda, I notice a lot of that stuff you can trace back to Oliver Stone's take on the world. I don't know where Stone gets his analysis from. I think much of it is made up by connecting dots that in all actuality have no real connection except in the man's own head. The tragedy is that others pick up the misinformation and repeat these myths, and so his imagination takes on a life of its own throughout the blogosphere. That's what its all about I think anyway. Impacting culture. Egocentric narcissists who are high profile thrive on the result of their "creative" work, it's what motivates them.

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    I don't know where Stone gets his analysis from. I think much of it is made up by connecting dots that in all actuality have no real connection except in the man's own head

    But isn't what that is called by others " the creative process"

    How do we know that there are no connections? "In the mans own head? And some would say thats "inspiration". To " breathe in" from the aether, the ancients believed....

    The tragedy is that others pick up the misinformation and repeat these myths, and so his imagination takes on a life of its own throughout the blogosphere. Is that really a tragedy or is that how humans relate to each other and how they spread knowledge? Sometime I see it as a wild spark that leaps from one human to another.

    Someone once said to Paul Schatzkin " Everybody has an agenda" and you mentioned it here. And those " agendas can be used to twist what might be pure inspiration from others into a useful situation for themselves....

    Can you say that the works of DaVinci or Michaelangelo were based on their ego? What created the work that they produced?

    To me sometimes its quite apparent that there is another greater force at work here than mere mortals. Thats hardly an original thought.... Call that Greater force by whatever name you might choose the name never does it justice....

    It would be nice though if Humans could do it justice, wouldn't it? Linda
    Last edited by Linda Brown; January 19th, 2013 at 09:15 AM.

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    That's what its all about I think anyway. Impacting culture. Egocentric narcissists who are high profile thrive on the result of their "creative" work, it's what motivates them.

    Do you REALLY think that narcissism is what is at the real root of " creative work?" If that is what you are saying here then I have to disagree with you. I have known many wonderfully creative people. They are all different of course and some of them have egos that can barely fit in a room. There are others who are driven not by what they hope others will think of them but actually IN SPITE of what others conclude about them.

    My Dad on one hand was the most humble person that I have ever known..If you talk to those who knew him thats one of the first things that they say about him.... that he was soft spoken...humble... self effacing....but under that exterior he was DRIVEN to uncover the gifts of knowledge that he felt he was honored with....

    and when I say DRIVEN I mean that entirely. That search caused him to give up many things in the material world and some things in his emotional world too but he never stepped away from his path .... not actually.....

    So... I have to disagree with you, respectfully on your statement here. If you have gained that opinion by meeting some real ego centric creative sorts.... I would simply suggest that you need to meet more to get a more rounded viewpoint of the situation! Linda

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    Re: Chavez, oil and the ‘Ketchup Revolution’

    Quote Originally Posted by Pat M's friend View Post
    Quote, "Jewish Koch Brothers"


    You're wrong, they are Scottish and German by descent, national origins, and Mormon by religion.
    You mean to say there're no Jews in Scotland and Germany!! If so, people are right that German Nazis did not kill Jews!! Thanks for the history lesson.

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    Re: Chavez, oil and the ‘Ketchup Revolution’

    Oliver Stone uses film to present his point of view about things. He spends enough time and effort to provide supporting evidence for his point of view. In the end, it's still his point of view.
    Cat

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