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Thread: Electrogravitic Propulsion

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    Re: Electrogravitic Propulsion


  2. #22

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    from the link above

    Welcome to the Parallel Universe • View topic - WIRED on "The AntiGravity Underground"


    "A sort of tame singularity - that such a ship, if fully powered up, would literally vanish not because it was bending light or was plasma-sheathed, but because it literally *would not exist* in our normal kind of space. Where it would 'go'?, I don't know. That idea is something that I don't think either Brown or Deyo are saying in their diagrams here, so why I feel that I don't know either. But it's very strong and it's there. I also have no idea what that means in real physics, or frankly how to make *any* of these descriptions add up with either conventional physics or any of the other fringe physics models I've studied."

    When you are faced with Mikado asking you why it goes uphill. Why don't you ask him this question here. When it blinks out.... where does it go?
    See what he says. Linda

  3. #23

    Re: Electrogravitic Propulsion

    Welcome to the Parallel Universe • View topic - WIRED on "The AntiGravity Underground"

    "This means that the crew could be having morning tea break and the pilot could turn a corner at 25,000 mph without spilling a drop of tea."


    Earl Grey Tea... I suspect! <g>

  4. #24

    Re: Electrogravitic Propulsion

    Quote Originally Posted by Linda Brown View Post
    from the link above

    Welcome to the Parallel Universe • View topic - WIRED on "The AntiGravity Underground"


    "A sort of tame singularity - that such a ship, if fully powered up, would literally vanish not because it was bending light or was plasma-sheathed, but because it literally *would not exist* in our normal kind of space. Where it would 'go'?, I don't know. That idea is something that I don't think either Brown or Deyo are saying in their diagrams here, so why I feel that I don't know either. But it's very strong and it's there. I also have no idea what that means in real physics, or frankly how to make *any* of these descriptions add up with either conventional physics or any of the other fringe physics models I've studied."

    When you are faced with Mikado asking you why it goes uphill. Why don't you ask him this question here. When it blinks out.... where does it go?
    See what he says. Linda
    Linda I think I know what mikado is saying.......he is saying the object dematerialize, vanish from existence..... Which could be use for invisibility...this is we're Electrogravity gets intersting...... After all you said in the resolute on my post the " Philadelphia experment"
    "Dads notebooks mention such a thing as optical.....gravitational bands.... its all connected" but were does it go you ask.... Nobody knows..... But I know that once you shut it off you materialize back to our universe. -dcooper

    P.S. Mikado I will get back on what you said about my idea.... I am in study hall and I need to finish my homework......when I'm done I will get back to you.

  5. #25

    Re: Electrogravitic Propulsion

    Mikado you said
    Quote Originally Posted by Mikado View Post
    EG is not Warp Drive.

    I sort of like your pictures. I see you copied from Wiki: Warp drive - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia and the fact that you are using a fictional starship to explain your hypothesis.
    The picture did not explain my hypothesis. Did you read my first post on this topic? Because I showed that what Brown and Mason Rose said is identical to how warp dive is explained. For example Brown's first patent said it violates Special Relativity and Newtons 3rd law of motion.....Warp drive does too but gets away with it because space is moving not the ship. Brown also said that since it violates Newtons 3rd law of motion you can accurate at an enormous fast rate stop instantly or turn at any angle and will feel nor "G" force or stress at all , as if you we're not moving......Warp drive is explained as that too. Brown believed it creates a gravitational field......from this mason rose said its like surfing on a wave, the positive pole creates a FIELD that is a well ( gravity-potential well) and the negative pole creates a FIELD that is a hill (gravity-potential hill).......again warp drive is explained the same. Brown said it always moves in the direction of the positive pole......so does warp drive. Look at figure 1,2 and 3 do you agree as Brown and Mason did that it creates a gravitational field.

    So Mikado it is not the picture that explains my hypothesis, it is the similarities of Electrogravitic propulsion and Warp Drive. If you agree that the positive charge creates a gravity-potential well and the negative charge creates a gravity-potential hill then it to should follow warp drive since warp drive is a gravity propulsion......I have told you this a thousand of time mikado the field does create a gravitational field but ELECTRICAL in nature meaning an electrical gravitational field (Electrogravity) because if it did create a real gravity field it would attract mass which does not happen so the this gravitational field has to be electrical in nature so it still affect charge......if this is the case then it should be able to warp space since its a gravitational field but electrical in nature so it will warp space and thus can be similar to warp drive but electrical in nature a electrowarp drive.


    Mikado......There is something in Main stream science that is predicted by General Relativity and has been tested by NASA which is gravitoelectric, gravitomagnetic, and gravitoelectromagnetic in which mass creates an electrical, magnetic or electromagnetic field but is gravitational in nature, these field effect mass not charge so it has to be gravitational in nature. The equations are identical to Maxwells equations.......then shouldn't it be possible for a magnetic and electric charge creates a gravitational field but is either magnetic, electric or electromagnetic in nature which would be Magnetogravity, Electrogravity, electromagnetogravity which would follow Einstein's equations thus warp space.


    P.S. mikado figure 1 which I put in my first post which is the Alcubierre drive which is a warp drive. It is called that after the physicist who was the first to develop a mathematical equation and a theory to show that warp drive can exist by using General Relativity. -dcooper
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    Last edited by dcooper; November 26th, 2012 at 09:40 AM.

  6. #26

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    Sorry it repost the same post as above.-dcooper
    Last edited by dcooper; November 26th, 2012 at 09:39 AM.

  7. #27

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    Dylan.... don't Mistake this statement as coming from Mikado.... it didn't... but its still a great question to keep at the top of our list here and see if any of the other scientists who are quietly reading this want to wade in here. Come on in guys.... the water is fine!

    "A sort of tame singularity - that such a ship, if fully powered up, would literally vanish not because it was bending light or was plasma-sheathed, but because it literally *would not exist* in our normal kind of space. Where it would 'go'?, I don't know. That idea is something that I don't think either Brown or Deyo are saying in their diagrams here, so why I feel that I don't know either. But it's very strong and it's there. I also have no idea what that means in real physics, or frankly how to make *any* of these descriptions add up with either conventional physics or any of the other fringe physics models I've studied"

    Comments on the above statement? Anybody else????

    You were very astute Dylan to pick up on that reference from Dads journals. Congratulations.

    Study hard.... Someday you will be the Prime Expert in the field of Electrogravitation.... and there is SO MUCH yet to do!!!! Linda

  8. #28

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    The discussion that we are quoting was an observation from Natecull.... an Australian friend of ours.

    Welcome to the Parallel Universe &bull; View topic - WIRED on "The AntiGravity Underground"

    Lets make sure that his observations here are properly cited. It was not Mikado. Linda

  9. #29

    Re: Electrogravitic Propulsion

    Nate has such an elegant way of putting things...

    "A sort of tame singularity - that such a ship, if fully powered up, would literally vanish not because it was bending light or was plasma-sheathed, but because it literally *would not exist* in our normal kind of space. "

    I have often asked myself... among other questions.... what does he mean by " tame singularity?"

    And though this thing may be bending light.... and "plasma sheathed".... it was ALSO doing other things which are much more important to understand. You can't play with this toy and just expect it to stay where you think it belongs.... unless you TOTALLY understand its potential.

    Dylan is the closest one yet to see what is actually going on.

    Anybody else?

    Linda

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