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Thread: Electrogravitic Propulsion

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    Electrogravitic Propulsion

    Electrogravitic Propulsion
    by dcooper » Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:33 am

    In Browns 1st patent # 300,311 Brown states " linear force or motion which is believed to be independent of all frames of reference save that which is at rest relative to the universe taken as a whole, and said linear force or motion is furthermore believed to have no equal and opposite reaction that can be observed by any method commonly known and accepted by physical science to date."

    Here Brown states that it violates Special Relativity, and violates Newton's 3rd law of motion. But does it truly violates SR...........Well let's investigate further.

    Mason Rose in his " The Flying Saucer" article says " This field [Electrogravity] acts like a wave, with the negative pole at the top of the wave and the positive pole at the bottom, the saucer travels like a surfboard on the incline of the wave that is kept continuously moving by the saucer's electrogravitational generator."

    Also in that article it says "The second objection concerned the tremendous accelerations which on the basis of previous technology, would subject any animal occupants to unbearable stresses. But, says Brown, the occupants of one of his saucers would feel no stress at all, no matter how sharp the turn or how great the acceleration."

    I don't know about you guys, but it seems to be that electrogravitic propulsion is very similar to Warp Drive . You see Warp Drive is explained as above quotes. It is known that Warp Drive seems to violate SR, but it does not. Because space-time fabric is moving ( not you or the ship) then it will seem to violate SR. In fact no SR effects will not be present.
    Because space time is moving, then it would make sense that it would seem to violate Newton's 3rd law of motion (in fact it is known that warp drive violates Newton's 3rd law of motion), meaning that no matter how great the accretion, stop or turn, you will not feel no stress at all. This is because the ship is not moving, but space is.

    Because of this analogue between Electrogravity propulsion and Warp Drive, it is possible that it to can warp space ( we will get to that later). In fact Einstein tried to "unify" electrostatic with gravity, so that it to can share the space time fabric/ geometry, meaning electricity analogue of creating a gravitational field, so it to can warp space time. But Einstein failed to finish his unified field theory (but it does not create a gravitational field, but creates an analogue to a gravitational field, it's likea gravitaional field but electrical in nature , for if it did create a real gravitational field it would move mass ( this has nothing to do with the coupling effect).

    If EG does indeed warp the fabric of space, and if, (which it is ) analogue to gravity then it should be analogue to warp drive, then it would make since that EG will SEEM to violate SR and Newton's 3rd law of motion but it is space that is moving not the ship.
    So this means that the (+) charge would contract space, while (-) charge would expand space, making space to move and not the ship, Which makes the illusion that the craft is moving to both people on board and watching the craft, and thus SR effects will not be present.






    Figure 1 (says fig8) is a Drawing that Thomas Brown Made in his "Structure of Space II" (The drawing is explaining it in ether/aether, But we can see we can even explain it in space-time fabric) He shows the action taking place of Electrogravitic propulsion and the movement. Know look at the simularities between what Brown drew and the action of a Warp Drive. Do you see the similarities. Not the field shape But the arrows showing the action and the movement (the longer arrows repesents the direction while the little arrows repersents the field force direction. So the (-) charge or energy will expand space while the (+) charge or energy will contract space.
    The shape of Warp drive field and Electrogravity drive field will differ but will work on the same principle. You see you can't store negative and positive energy on the ship's hull but you can put it around the ship with out it touching it. Electrogravity uses charges so you have to put it on the ships hull, you can't have it not touching the ship. But one would ONLY be able to do this in air but not in a vacuum. So the Fields will differ in shape BUT they will still use the same principles. -dcooper
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    Re: Electrogravitic Propulsion

    Electrogravity is when a electric charge creates a field analogue to gravity, think of It as a electrical gravitational field meaning its gravity but electrical in nature. So if it is a gravitational field but electrical in nature then it should be analogue to warpdrive but electrical in nature.......so Electrogravitic propulsion is an electrical warp drive. -dcooper

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    Re: Electrogravitic Propulsion

    Quote Originally Posted by dcooper View Post
    Electrogravity is when a electric charge creates a field analogue to gravity, think of It as a electrical gravitational field meaning its gravity but electrical in nature. So if it is a gravitational field but electrical in nature then it should be analogue to warpdrive but electrical in nature.......so Electrogravitic propulsion is an electrical warp drive. -dcooper
    Too conclusive without any laboratory proof.

    In your first post, you start with Brown's first patent and by the second/third paragraph, you are talking about Mason Rose and the occupants in a craft and you jump to the comparison of it being similar to Warp Drive and you do all this without even truly understanding what EG is and it's relationship to electricity and magnetism.

    Let's go back to Mason Rose's comment that it is riding on a wave. A wave of what...water?

    Mikado

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    Re: Electrogravitic Propulsion

    Mikado I think you know what I'm saying......you are a smart man.-dcooper
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    Here an experiment done by mainstream scientist on one of Thomas Browns work from http://www.space-mixing-theory.com/article2.pdf . if you want just read the Abstract, Introduction and the background.....and the conclusion which is on page 21 (near at the end of the page. There results came out positive check it out TickFox and Linda I want to know what you think of it.-dcooper

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    Re: Electrogravitic Propulsion

    Quote Originally Posted by dcooper View Post
    Mikado I think you know what I'm saying......you are a smart man.-dcooper
    If I were to "think" I know what you are saying then that would be an assumption and I could be wrong. I wouldn't be smart for that would be a stupid action and I see that enough from others.

    A wave of what?

    Mikado

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    Re: Electrogravitic Propulsion

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikado View Post
    Too conclusive without any laboratory proof.

    In your first post, you start with Brown's first patent and by the second/third paragraph, you are talking about Mason Rose and the occupants in a craft and you jump to the comparison of it being similar to Warp Drive and you do all this without even truly understanding what EG is and it's relationship to electricity and magnetism.

    Let's go back to Mason Rose's comment that it is riding on a wave. A wave of what...water?

    Mikado

    But for those who don't then when Mason Rose said like riding on a wave meaning the positive charge creates a field to a gravitational well and the negative charge creates a field that is a hill which looks like a wave, know because warpdrive is using gravity for propulsion and Electrogravity is analogue to gravity but electrical in nature so it to can be use as a electrical gravity propulsion which if it is analogue to gravity it to should warp space so we can use it for propulsion as an electrical warpdrive which looks like a wave.....don't confuse a gravitaional wave with this it's the fields that looks like a wave. (+) charge acts like a well, and (-) charge act like a hill and when you combine them it LOOK like a wave.

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    Re: Electrogravitic Propulsion

    Quote Originally Posted by dcooper View Post
    Here an experiment done by mainstream scientist on one of Thomas Browns work from http://www.space-mixing-theory.com/article2.pdf . if you want just read the Abstract, Introduction and the background.....and the conclusion which is on page 21 (near at the end of the page. There results came out positive check it out TickFox and Linda I want to know what you think of it.-dcooper
    You asked that question of me as well.

    Here is a link to my response:

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    Mikado

    (Tickfox? hey Linda, remember when you made fun of my farm calling it a tick infested place since Kim and I contracted Lyme disease?...Tickfox...lol)

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    Re: Electrogravitic Propulsion

    Quote Originally Posted by dcooper View Post
    But for those who don't then when Mason Rose said like riding on a wave meaning the positive charge creates a field to a gravitational well and the negative charge creates a field that is a hill which looks like a wave, know because warpdrive is using gravity for propulsion and Electrogravity is analogue to gravity but electrical in nature so it to can be use as a electrical gravity propulsion which if it is analogue to gravity it to should warp space so we can use it for propulsion as an electrical warpdrive which looks like a wave.....don't confuse a gravitaional wave with this it's the fields that looks like a wave. (+) charge acts like a well, and (-) charge act like a hill and when you combine them it LOOK like a wave.
    So, if the (+) is a well and the negative (-) is the hill, what is pushing it up the hill?

    Mikado

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    Re: Electrogravitic Propulsion

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikado View Post
    If I were to "think" I know what you are saying then that would be an assumption and I could be wrong. I wouldn't be smart for that would be a stupid action and I see that enough from others.

    A wave of what?

    Mikado
    A wave of an electrical gravitational field meaning a gravitaional field that's electrical, (-)charge creates a field that acts like a hill and (+) charge creates a field that acts like a well and when combine it looks like a wave.

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