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Thread: Scientists offer quantum theory of soul's existence

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    Scientists offer quantum theory of soul's existence

    A PAIR of world-renowned quantum scientists say they can prove the existence of the soul.

    American Dr Stuart Hameroff and British physicist Sir Roger Penrose developed a quantum theory of consciousness asserting that our souls are contained inside structures called microtubules which live within our brain cells.

    Their idea stems from the notion of the brain as a biological computer, "with 100 billion neurons and their axonal firings and synaptic connections acting as information networks".

    Dr Hameroff, Professor Emeritus at the Departments of Anesthesiology and Psychology and Director of the Centre of Consciousness Studies at the University of Arizona, and Sir Roger have been working on the theory since 1996.

    They argue that our experience of consciousness is the result of quantum gravity effects inside these microtubules - a process they call orchestrated objective reduction (Orch-OR).

    In a near-death experience the microtubules lose their quantum state, but the information within them is not destroyed. Or in layman's terms, the soul does not die but returns to the universe.

    Dr Hameroff explained the theory at length in the Morgan Freeman-narrated documentary Through the Wormhole, which was recently aired in the US by the Science Channel.

    The quantum soul theory is now trending worldwide, thanks to stories published this week by The Huffington Post and the Daily Mail, which have generated thousands of readers comments and social media shares.

    "Let's say the heart stops beating, the blood stops flowing, the microtubules lose their quantum state," Dr Hameroff said.

    "The quantum information within the microtubules is not destroyed, it can't be destroyed, it just distributes and dissipates to the universe at large.

    'If the patient is resuscitated, revived, this quantum information can go back into the microtubules and the patient says "I had a near death experience".'

    In the event of the patient's death, it was "possible that this quantum information can exist outside the body indefinitely - as a soul".

    Dr Hameroff believes new findings about the role quantum physics plays in biological processes, such as the navigation of birds, adds weight to the theory.

    Read more: http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/qua...#ixzz2GyKuYldF

    More Article:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...ink-death.html
    http://zeenews.india.com/news/space/...ce_808671.html

    Stuart Hameroff on Quantum Soul



    Fascinating!
    Energy flows where attention goes...

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    Re: Scientists offer quantum theory of soul's existence

    Do you have a soul?

    I find it funny that it rimes with troll?

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    Re: Scientists offer quantum theory of soul's existence

    Quote Originally Posted by Pat M's friend View Post
    Do you have a soul?

    I find it funny that it rimes with troll?
    Does It?

    The video is garbage.
    Your SOUL resides in Your heart( that rhymes with far@)
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    Re: Scientists offer quantum theory of soul's existence

    You know, hobbit, we need to get together and develop a gig like the one Mr. Hameroff is hawking and go on tour. I mean how hard could it be?

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    Re: Scientists offer quantum theory of soul's existence

    Quote Originally Posted by Pat M's friend View Post
    Do you have a soul?

    I find it funny that it rimes with troll?
    So.... Am I to assume you are calling 100th Monkey a "troll" because of his/her post? So, to spread information that one finds interesting and is at the level of understanding of the person posting is "troll" behavior?

    Why is it so important to derail the topic onto this user (who is a long-time member, btw, who has not caused trouble up to this point) being a "troll"? THAT behavior is troll-like.

    We are all at different levels, and on this site, it is important to provide ALL aspects of ALL things in order to find the truth hidden within EVERYTHING. Yes, there is a lot of disinformation out there, and a lot of it gets spread. However, if it can't be proven one way or another, EVERYTHING can be said to be disinformation, but it can ALSO be said to be information. There is no harm in looking at and exploring ALL information, believed to be true or false, at any given time. Every single little thing is another piece to the enormous puzzle we call life.

    BTW, I think we need to pull this back on the original topic and off the whole name-calling thing please.
    Go through your life with love and light, and nothing can truly harm you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady of Light View Post
    So.... Am I to assume you are calling 100th Monkey a "troll" because of his/her post? So, to spread information that one finds interesting and is at the level of understanding of the person posting is "troll" behavior?

    Why is it so important to derail the topic onto this user (who is a long-time member, btw, who has not caused trouble up to this point) being a "troll"? THAT behavior is troll-like.

    We are all at different levels, and on this site, it is important to provide ALL aspects of ALL things in order to find the truth hidden within EVERYTHING. Yes, there is a lot of disinformation out there, and a lot of it gets spread. However, if it can't be proven one way or another, EVERYTHING can be said to be disinformation, but it can ALSO be said to be information. There is no harm in looking at and exploring ALL information, believed to be true or false, at any given time. Every single little thing is another piece to the enormous puzzle we call life.

    BTW, I think we need to pull this back on the original topic and off the whole name-calling thing please.
    No I am not calling the author of the OP a troll. Just making a funny to bump the thread. I thought some others here I know would enjoy it, and is why I bumped it.

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    Re: Scientists offer quantum theory of soul's existence

    Fine, but we need to try to stick to the topic please. We also need to respect others views or interests.
    Go through your life with love and light, and nothing can truly harm you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady of Light View Post
    Fine, but we need to try to stick to the topic please. We also need to respect others views or interests.
    I want to respect others views, but vetting sometimes appears to be disrespectful when it is only a move to motivate someone's defense of their point a view. If we simply ditto each others views that only leads everyone to darkness. The tunnel of ignorance.

    Also humor in order to keep things fun can be construed as having fun at someone else expense when in fact that was not the intent. All is subject to interpretations based on any given person's social norms. A person perceives only how one's filter was constructed out of the materials of their own culture.

    You're Canadian so I imagine your social values center around being polite. I grew up just 50 miles away from Canada, and so I understand the culture somewhat. I hope you will understand mine which is probably a bit crude. I was born in Detroit Michigan and grew up just out side the City. We're not known for being, uh lets say, too smooth...

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    Re: Scientists offer quantum theory of soul's existence

    Again, with this conversation, we are veering off topic. We should probably move this conversation to a new thread if you wish to continue.

    This is about science proving the soul. Let's keep it there please. Be crude if you must, but also try to be tolerant and respectful please. I allow ALL views here on this site. I'm sure you can see that if you look around.

    I haven't watched the above video, nor do I intend to. I also have not taken the time to read the article... yet. But... do I believe that science can prove the existence of a soul? Well, ALL science is biased, this is shown in the study of quantum physics. So, yes, it can, and no, it can't. Truth is relative. Facts are commonplace beliefs. I don't see the "soul" as such, I see it all as frequency. A "soul" is based upon belief that such exists AS such. So, for some to research and find that it exists, of course it does. And those that research to prove that it doesn't, of course they can prove that too.
    Go through your life with love and light, and nothing can truly harm you.

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    Re: Scientists offer quantum theory of soul's existence

    I have heard that a body weighs fractionally less dead, than alive. Part of that difference could be due to the release of waste products. I know that whenever I've done death care for a patient, I've felt a presence watching me. Back before fire codes mandated bolting hospital windows shut, we used to open the window to allow the soul an exit. This was not something taught in church or in nursing school. It was an instinctive reaction. That said, dead bodies still have plenty of weight to them.

    Cat

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