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Thread: September Clues - There Were No Planes

  1. #31

    Re: September Clues - There Were No Planes

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Vibrations View Post
    Helicopters don't come down on such an angle, great find! it's definitely a UFO but I'm willing to bet is one of ours and was involved in taking down the towers. IMO
    It's definitely a smoking gun if enough people want to acknowledge that it wasn't a plane or chopper. Watch the northeast corner as it illuminates during ignition. Bombs were were triggered in the opposite direction of impact and created explosions along the east side and lastly to the drone's impact area on the southeast corner. The drone was used as an ignition device and to have something in the area moving toward the buildings even though it wasn't a real plane. It was at least something people could eyewitness and call a small plane or remote controlled drone like Dick Oliver had.



  2. #32

    Re: September Clues - There Were No Planes

    http://digitaljournalist.org/issue0110/images/m04.jpg

    "I was underneath it, I was looking at the tower, I had my camera in my hand, I heard the noise, I never saw the airplane." CASE CLOSED.

    David, did not hear or see an approaching plane and did not photograph one because there was no plane.

    "...Then out of nowhere came this noise. This loud, high-pitched roar that
    seemed to come from all over, but from nowhere in particular. AND THE SECOND
    TOWER JUST EXPLODED
    . It became amazingly obvious to anyone there that what
    we all had hoped was a terrible accident was actually an overt act of
    hostility. I DIDN'T SEE THE PLANE HIT, ALTHOUGH I WAS LOOKING AT THE TOWER AT
    THE TIME
    . I have no recollection of pushing the button, hitting the shutter,
    making the picture that appeared on Page 2 of the Daily News the next day, a
    picture that was taken milliseconds after the second plane hit that tower
    ..."




    Whomever Cloud turned his footage over to, added a black blob. Clifton, did not hear nor see a plane. It would have been coming from his left. Clifton, debunks all video fakery shown on 911. Advance to 2:00 for his real-time account. He says it over and over and over and over. He didn't see a plane because there was no plane to see. The blob cannot be seen south of where it magically appeared. He was about a mile east of the towers and slightly north.

    "I just caught the second explosion on videotape...No, a bomb, I saw it, no plane hit nothin', the building exploded from the other tower floors down."





  3. #33

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    You got some great posts... Roger please keep it up... I look Forward to seeing more!
    Energy flows where attention goes...

  4. #34

    Re: September Clues - There Were No Planes

    Quote Originally Posted by 100th Monkey View Post
    You got some great posts... Roger please keep it up... I look Forward to seeing more!
    Amen to that!

    You've dug up some footage and some photos that I've never seen before. Thanks!!!!!
    The truth IS out there! We just tend to look in all the wrong places.

  5. #35

    Re: September Clues - There Were No Planes

    Quote Originally Posted by Plainview View Post
    An ex-girlfriend's brother is a NYC Cop. He worked the financial district when the attacks happened. He was there. He saw both planes hit.
    Eyewitness testimony is the most unreliable evidence and has put more innocent people behind bars than any other. I already explained it many times and posted the clips. The fake plane images from the west circled the towers which is impossible for a real airplane, and the official flight path had fake 175 flying over the bay in the final 14 seconds. The orb passed east of the north tower in the final few seconds which is why the shadow was cast. Flight 175 could not have left a shadow logically or officially, therefore the official myth of planes is in doubt for that fact and many others. The shadow is so distinct because the orb literally moved in between the towers, turning right and finally left across the rear of tower 2.




  6. #36

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    Abovetopsecret, bans NO REAL PLANE TRUTH.

    reply posted on 14-5-2011 @ 05:35 PM by truthseekr1111
    Originally posted by _BoneZ_
    Originally posted by SphinxMontreal
    If you're going to examine 9/11 with restrictions and blinders towards certain hypothesis, you might as well find better things to do with your time.
    What restrictions are there? "TV fakery/no-planes/CGI" and the likes of "September Clues" has been proven to be deliberate, made-up disinformation.


    And You've been making that out-dated ridiculous debunked claim for years bonez. its nothing more than deliberate made-up disinformation.


    Originally posted by _BoneZ_
    A HOAX. And that happened years ago.
    yes the real planes theory was proven a hoax years ago.
    It's just taken this long for ATS to finally come to that realization and send those threads that are made about that topic to the HOAX bin. ATS has finally caught up to the truth movement on that aspect and banned the discussion of deliberately-created disinformation and HOAXes.


    wrong...it has nothing to do with what you're trying to CLAIM... the FACT that ATS has repeatedly attempted to hide the evidence, censor debate, and put the arguments in the hoax "bin" is one thing... but the fact they went even further to ban it even there, is evidence alone of a cover-up because NRPT cannot be disproven by even the most seasoned disinfo agents.


    Originally posted by _BoneZ_
    So, on the subject of "TV fakery/no-planes/CGI" and the likes of "September Clues", there's nothing left to discuss. Why would deliberate HOAXes need discussing or debating?


    if that were true, why would ATS have a hoax forum and not allow a HOAX to be discussed in that forum? LOL you keep falling all over your failed logic bonez. Your failures and denial only make the Nrpt theory stronger.


    Originally posted by _BoneZ_
    So, I ask again: What's being restricted and what needs discussing that hasn't been discussed and debunked years ago?


    do you hear yourself bonez? Are you seriously mad? you say how ATS has restricted and banned any discussion of the NRPT (which is a disinfo tactic to deter debate under THREAT of being BANNED), and
    now you taunt and again challenge people to DEBATE the theory KNOWING it cannot be debated!!
    just wow
    .


    Originally posted by _BoneZ_
    I would suggest that since the above "theories" have been debunked and proven to be HOAXes ad-nauseum, it is you that should find better things to do with your time.


    so you claim without any proof whatsoever not to mention the facts and evidence prove otherwise.

    DEW/Energy Weapons? Holograms? TV Fakery? No Planes at the WTC? -- A 9/11 Disinfo Campaign, page 6

  7. #37

    Re: September Clues - There Were No Planes

    http://digitaljournalist.org/issue0110/images/m04.jpg

    "And then heard this noise that seemed to come from everywhere but didn't...had no idea what it was and then the south tower just exploded, it just it just, it just blew up. And somebody said that was a plane and I was like, "I was underneath it, I was looking at the tower, I had my camera in my hand, I heard the noise, I never saw the airplane."

    David, did not hear or see an approaching plane and did not photograph one. He would have heard the roaring engines and plane coming in at over 500 mph. NO REAL PLANE HIT THE SOUTH TOWER.



  8. #38

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    9/11 Reflections Part 2: Interview with Simon Shack of September Clues - Salem-News.Com

    An independent journalist in Oregon, Ersun Warncke, actually did perform this tedious task and came up with this data:

    Out of 2,970 9/11 victims listed, only 446 appear in the Social Security death index. Of those only 249 have a confirmed death certificate on file.

    Ersun Warncke Salem-News.com

    I did an exhaustive check of the list of victims provided on the CNN website. What I found is that out of 2,970 people listed, only 446 appear in the Social Security death index. Of those only 249 have a confirmed death certificate on file. Of those, not a single one has a valid “last address of record” on file. That is a lot of clerical error, or maybe Simon Shack is not as crazy as it would seem at first glance[2].

  9. #39

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    A fake plane was added for south tower explosion : Politics & NWO - Page 41
    9/11 Airplane Photo Gallery - 9-11-2001 - 2nd World Trade Center Attack

    Thanks goes to Rich for comparing fiction against reality. He should have a 1 and 4 at the top, but it's self-explanatory. Rich's post is below the picture. Robert Clark is credited with this and one other fake photo image from 911. Rich didn't line up the fake right engine with its way out of alignment left counterpart. Every discernible plane part is out of sync with a real boeing 767-222, including the joke image being a black smudge with no windows or markings.

    1. Horizontal stabilizer
    2. Right Wing
    3. Tail Fin
    4. Left Engine




    I've resized the blue/grey plane to make it the same length as the colour photo underneath it... some interesting anomalies pop up right away. I lined the planes up from their ass end to their noses marked A and B. The rest is self explanatory...

    I don't know how much these planes need to be twisted and turned, rolled and pushed about to get the 4 anomalies to line up as they should... But I just can't see how they can line up.. No. 2 is the standout for me..

    Even if the coloured plane was rolled more to it's left, the right wing that we can see would naturally go up and move further away from the tail section.. not closer to it and right thru it.. not a chance. I also cannot see how a planes fuselage can become 25% thicker.. ok bad photo.. but it shouldn't look like that.. it makes no sense at all..

    As Doogle has shown, maybe it's the angle.. I'm not seeing it yet and I'm not sure I will.

  10. #40

    Re: September Clues - There Were No Planes

    Last edited by roger rules; August 18th, 2013 at 04:10 PM.

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