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Thread: OSAMA bin LADEN DEAD - CNN.com

  1. #51

    Experts question strength of OBL DNA identification

    Maggie Fox
    National Journal
    May 3, 2011


    Stephen Quake, a Howard Hughes Medical Institute professor of applied physics and bioengineering at Stanford University, says all the DNA analysis will say for sure is that the dead person is one of the many sons of Osama bin Laden’s father.

    One factor could make things easier: Osama bin Laden was the only child whom his mother, Alia Ghanem, had with his father. That could make it easier to triangulate any tissue samples with samples from half-siblings.

    It is not an exact science, however. DNA was used to establish that Thomas Jefferson was related to the descendants of his former slave, Sally Hemings. In that case the Y chromosome, which is passed down with very little change from father to son over the generations, was used. But all that the DNA indicated in the end was that descendants of Jefferson’s paternal uncle have the same Y chromosome as a male-line descendant of Eston Hemings, the youngest son of Sally Hemings. The research could never finger Jefferson individually with complete accuracy.

    “You are still dealing with probabilities,” Quake said.

    Full article here


  2. #52

    Bin Laden Assassination: Slog Gagged by Huffington Post

    'After comment-threading at Huffpost this afternoon about the range of inconsistencies between the White House account of the anti-Bin Laden operation and what appear to be the facts, this little message greeted me when I went to leave a link to tonight’s piece there an hour ago:

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  3. #53

    Forget Pakistan, US Knew Bin Laden’s Location All Along

    US intelligence pinpointed terror leader’s precise location on numerous occasions and let him escape every time

    Paul Joseph Watson
    Prison Planet.com
    Tuesday, May 3, 2011

    The notion that the US was only aware of Bin Laden’s precise location for a matter of months before they executed their alleged raid of his compound in Pakistan is an insult to the truth, which is that the US knew the Al-Qaeda leader’s precise whereabouts before 9/11 and also protected him from capture on numerous occasions afterwards.

    A year after the FBI had issued a global arrest warrant for Bin Laden following his alleged involvement in the 1998 Nairobi and Kenya embassy attacks, British tourists Alan and Cindy Thompson were traveling through Pakistan when they stopped off at a town called Zhob.

    After driving for 11 hours on dirt roads they came to a checkpoint and were detained by armed Pakistani guards. The Thompsons later discovered that they were stopped because they had discovered the secret lair of Osama Bin Laden, before being told by American aid workers that the location had been visited by US consulate officers, British, Australian, and Swiss ambassadors, and that it was guarded by a team of US commandoes.

    The aid workers also told them that they had been forced to move their offices because of a similar experience in Kandahar, where they ended up stationed right next door to Bin Laden.

    After the couple were picked up by the British embassy they were invited to a garden party where all the British ambassadors and aid workers were bragging that they were stationed in the same area as bin Laden’s secret hideout.

    The Thompsons tried to alert the FBI and Scotland Yard to the astounding information, but were completely ignored.

    “We were gobsmacked,” said Cindy Thompson. “We found it incredible that we were offering to give first hand true information about the most wanted man in the world and the US embassy couldn’t even be bothered to get off their butts…it is about time that this story is told to the world to let the people know the truth…the hunt for bin Laden is a farce.”

    The account was reported on at the time by Pakistan’s Dawn newspaper and the Thompsons later confirmed it to author Kenyon Gibson, who related the story in his book, Common Sense: A Study of the Bushes, the CIA and the Suspicions Regarding 9/11.

    The account is important because it correlates with several instances where the U.S. had Bin Laden in their sights and deliberately ordered special forces soldiers to stand down or refused to launch air strikes.

    In December 1998, Bin Laden was located in Kandahar but Bill Clinton refused to authorize military action.

    In February 1999, Bin Laden stayed at a hunting camp in Afghanistan’s Helmand province for more than a week, but after US intelligence pinpointed the exact location, authorization for an assault never came.

    US intelligence again located Bin Laden’s location in Kandahar in May 1999 but took no action.

    According to the U.S. Senate, Bin Laden was “within the grasp” of the U.S. military in Afghanistan in December 2001, but that then-secretary of defense Rumsfeld refused to provide the soldiers necessary to capture him.

    In January 2004, Lt. Col. Bryan Hilferty told the Associated Press that the US military was “sure” that they would catch Bin Laden that year, clearly indicating they knew his location.

    In October 2004, the San Bernadino Sun reported that, “The Pentagon knows exactly where Osama bin Laden is hiding in Pakistan,” according to 9/11 Commission member John Lehman, who said that his capture was being delayed because there were too many Taliban fighters in the area.

    “There is an American presence in the area, but we can’t just send in troops. If we did, we could have another Vietnam, and the United States cannot afford that right now,” said Lehman.

    “Look,” he said, “Musharraf already has had three assassination attempts on his life. He is trying to comply, but he is surrounded by people who do not agree with him. This is not like Afghanistan, where there was no compliance, and we had to go in.”

    “We’ll get (bin Laden) eventually, just not now,” concluded Lehman.

    In 2006, a French documentary also claimed that French soldiers had Bin Laden in their sights on two occasions in 2003, but authorization to kill or capture the leader was not forthcoming from US authorities.

    Colonel Hunt subsequently wrote an article for Fox News in which he stated, “We know, with a 70 percent level of certainty — which is huge in the world of intelligence — that in August of 2007, bin Laden was in a convoy headed south from Tora Bora. We had his butt, on camera, on satellite. We were listening to his conversations. We had the world’s best hunters/killers — Seal Team 6 — nearby. We had the world class Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC) coordinating with the CIA and other agencies. We had unmanned drones overhead with missiles on their wings; we had the best Air Force on the planet, begging to drop one on the terrorist. We had him in our sights; we had done it. Nice job again guys — now, pull the damn trigger.”

    “Unbelievably, and in my opinion, criminally, we did not kill Usama bin Laden.”

    Democrat Rep. Maurice Hinchey later told MSNBC that the Bush administration deliberately allowed Bin Laden to get away in order to justify the attack on Iraq.

    Despite the fact that US intelligence knew Bin Laden’s precise location in Pakistan more than a decade ago and deliberately failed to apprehend the terror leader on numerous occasions in the years since, Pakistan itself is now being targeted with threats for that very same reason.

    Bin Laden was allegedly shot dead in his compound at Abbottabad, which is virtually a stone’s throw away from an important Pakistani military academy. President Barack Obama’s counterterrorism adviser John Brennan told NPR that it was “possible” that members of Pakistan’s military knew Bin Laden was hiding in the compound.

    Pakistan’s ISI intelligence agency is tied at the hip with the CIA, to the extent where it is basically a branch of the Central Intelligence Agency.

    Bin Laden’s shocked neighbors have told the media of their disbelief that Bin Laden or his aides could have lived in the town without being noticed. Indeed, one man who lived next door to the compound raided by US Navy SEALS told Al Jazeera that residents in the area carry documents because they are constantly asked to identify themselves by military forces.

    Talking points centering around the notion that Pakistan knew all along that they were sheltering Bin Laden are likely the culmination of a blackmailing process and in retaliation to massive unrest in Pakistan over the US Predator drone strikes which have killed hundreds. Saudi Arabia is also being blackmailed in light of the contrived “Arab Spring,” which has been hijacked by globalist interests and is now being used as a threat to destabilize the Saudi Kingdom.

    The globalists could quickly isolate Pakistan and make them the next target of the ‘war on terror’ by claiming they were in league with Osama Bin Laden, when in reality Bin Laden’s whereabouts were well known to US intelligence all along because he was their prize asset.


    Paul Joseph Watson is the editor and writer for Prison Planet.com. He is the author of Order Out Of Chaos. Watson is also a regular fill-in host for The Alex Jones Show.


  4. #54

    Gory Osama Death Photo Shows Massive Head Wound Across Both Eyes

    Tuesday, May 3, 2011

    A Senior US Official tells CNN 10 hard drives, 5 computers and more than 100 storage devices which includes discs, DVDs and thumb drives were taken from the compound.

    The senior us official also says the White House received 3 sets of photos yesterday. The photos included:

    1. Photos of OBLs body at a hangar after he was brought back to Afghanistan. This is the most recognizable with a clear picture of his face. The picture is gruesome because he has a massive open head wound across both eyes. It’s very bloody and gory.

    2. Photos from the burial at sea on the USS Carl Vinson. Photos of OBL before the shroud was put on and then wrapped in the shroud.

    Full story here.


  5. #55

    The Great Osama Bin Laden Hoax - How the FBI made up a bogey man

    There is no such thing as "al Qaeda", there is no one on earth who calls himself a member of "al Qaeda". "al Qaeda" is a term made up by the U.S. government to be applied to anyone killed during in the occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan. There is no formal organization. There is no secret terrorist network. What there is a is a phantom enemy, a boogyman that was easily sold to the American people for the benefit of the Bush Administration and their friends at PNAC.

  6. #56

    'We Got Him' - The Movie, a sequel to Wag the Dog.

    Comment from David Icke

    Scene One: President in ratings nose-dive after doing everything he said he wouldn't do and nothing that he said he would. Pakistan is on the wish-list of countries to invade and subdue leading directly to the border with China - the target, with Russia, for a Third World War. Public support for ever more wars, like the latest in Libya, is waning. Others are planned so support must generated for them.

    Scene Two: Man wrongly blamed for 9/11, who died years before anyway, becomes the manufactured villain in a staged drama in which John Wayne extras have a shoot out in a compound in Pakistan, thus providing further ammunition to demonise that country for 'protecting Bin Laden'.

    Scene Three: The lying and ludicrous President is suddenly an overnight hero (for doing nothing) and enjoys standing ovations when he enters a room. He condemns Pakistan (obligatory) which then apologises for 'security failures' hoping this will mitigate the military backlash in the wake of them telling the United States to stop drone-bombing their country and killing their civilians.

    Scene Four: Grotesque, beyond grotesqueness - the hero President heads for Ground Zero in New York to exploit the families who lost loved ones on 9/11 to further promote himself, his popularity and poll ratings as he prepares for another run for President.

    Scene Five: With new found support triggered in the John Wayne DNA of many Americans the President orders assaults on other countries while he heroically sits in the White House thousands of miles from the men, women and children this man and his beyond evil masters are ordering to be killed.

    There was another scene in which the brave men in uniform paraded their 'prize' in full view to prove that what they said they have done they actually did. But, no. This was dropped in favour of dumping the 'body' into the sea. Saves the cost of hiring a corpse.

  7. #57

    US troops were yards from Osama bin Laden house in 2008 – WikiLeaks files

    Related:*Forget Pakistan, US Knew Bin Laden’s Location All Along

    James Ball
    London Guardian
    May 4, 2011

    US forces were stationed just a few hundred yards from Osama Bin Laden’s Abbottabad compound in October 2008, according to reports within the WikiLeaks embassy cables.

    The revelation that US forces were so close to the world’s most wanted man in 2008 comes after material from the Guantánamo files suggested the US may have received the intelligence that led them to Bin Laden as early as 2008.

    The US soldiers were due to perform a routine posting “training the trainers” of Pakistan’s 70,000-strong federal military unit, the Frontier Corps.

    Abbottabad is home to the Pakistan Military Academy, the country’s version of Sandhurst in Britain, and trains officers from across the nation. The academy is streets away from where Bin Laden was tracked down and killed.

    Full article here


  8. #58

    Pakistani Media: Bin Laden Was Actually Killed By His Own Bodyguards

    Joe Weisenthal
    Business Insider
    May 4, 2011

    Two new Bin Laden theories from the non-US media.

    We don’t present them as necessarily credible, but it’s still good to know what’s being said elsewhere.

    First, from*Al-Arabiya, Bin Laden’s daughter reportedly told officials that Bin Laden was actually captured and taken away unharmed, and then shot later.

    And then a totally different version of events in*The Nation PK:

    …his body guard killed him to save him from arrested alive, a Pakistani television quoted sources as saying on Tuesday. It said that the officials, who reached the compound after the operation, said they had not found any signs of resistance at any place in the compound. The official said signs indicate that Osama was shot in the head from a close range.

    Meanwhile, the White House keeps taking flak for not*keeping its story straight, while the world eagerly awaits gruesome photos.

    And for the story of the team that really got Bin Laden,*see here.


  9. #59

    CIA Employs Theatrics to Heighten Drama in Osama Murder Photo Release

    Kurt Nimmo
    May 3, 2011

    In a gruesome game of wait and see, the CIA is drawing out the release of photos its claims show a double-tapped Osama bin Laden.

    Leon Panetta, Obama’s director at the CIA, told*Brian Williams of “NBC Nightly News” today the agency would eventually present a photograph and pawn it off as evidence. In the meantime, we will be obliged to wait on pins and needles.

    The CIA’s version of events in the highly dubious assassination of Osama bin Laden.

    Earlier today, Obama decided to release at least one photo showing Osama Bin Laden’s death, according to*Drudge Report. The image reportedly shows a bullet wound to his head above the left eye, according to reports.

    CNN reported the White House and the CIA are locked in deliberation whether to release a photo.

    There is a school of thought inside the White House, according to CNN, that the photo release is unnecessary because*there is “no question” that bin Laden is dead, a senior administration official told CNN’s Gloria Borger.

    In addition, Panetta said Osama did not put his hands up and surrender and this is why he was executed.

    Similarly, following the events of September 11, 2001, the government expected the American people to believe that Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda were responsible for the attacks without providing any evidence. After the Bush Administration agreed to hold an investigation, it insisted on appointing Henry Kissinger as chair of the commission.

    Commission chairmen Lee H. Hamilton and Thomas H. Kean accused the CIA of*impeding their investigation and destroying videotapes documenting the interrogations of two alleged al-Qaeda operatives.

    The story coalescing around the unverified assassination is similar to the Jessica Lynch and Pat Tillman stories that were grossly exaggerated and outright fabricated by the Pentagon and the corporate media in order to feed the war on terror narrative.

    In 2003, the German television show Tagesschau revealed that stories of PFC Jessica Lynch’s heroism fighting against her Iraqi captors until she supposedly ran out of ammunition were*outright lies and cynical war propaganda. The Washington Post in particular collaborated with the Pentagon to feed the American people the Lynch bravery fairy tale.

    “In America it doesn’t matter any more what is right or wrong,” John MacArthur, editor of Harper’s Magazine, wrote at the time. “The public is conditioned to believe everything: no matter if it is emotional stories or lies on weapons of mass destruction.”

    Likewise folk lore was spun to make the late Army Ranger*Pat Tillman out to be a hero and an iconic representation of a brave American who selflessly gave up a promising football career to fight the evil of al-Qaeda.

    An official Army press release announced his Silver Star citation and said he had stormed a hill to take out the enemy as he “provided suppressive fire with an M-249 Squad Automatic Weapon machine gun.”

    In fact, the entire story was a fabrication. Tillman, the Pentagon later claimed, had died as a result of friendly fire.

    It was later revealed that Tillman was killed because of his disillusionment with the war in Afghanistan and the threat he posed as a potential anti-war figure.

    On July 27, 2007,*Paul Joseph Watson wrote that medical examiners concluded that “there was no evidence whatsoever of friendly fire, but the ballistics data clearly indicated that the three head shots had been fired from just 10 yards away and then the Army tried to concoct a hoax friendly fire story.”

    The current hyperventilation by the corporate media over the Osama bin Laden story, minus absolutely any corroborating evidence, is indicative of another Pentagon pysop and propaganda offensive designed to blindside the American people and pump new life into the flagging war on terror.


  10. #60

    Neighbors Don’t Believe Bin Laden Lived In Pakistan Compound

    Press TV
    May 4, 2011

    The Pakistani people say they do not believe US reports that Osama bin Laden had lived in a compound near a Pakistani military base in Abbottabad since 2005.

    The million-dollar compound is located in the city of Abbottabad about 100 kilometers (62 miles) north of the capital Islamabad.

    The huge mansion has now been taken over by Pakistan’s security forces and the media is not allowed to go inside.

    The alleged presence of bin Laden just few hundred meters away from the training center of the military elite has also raised questions about the role of Pakistan’s intelligence apparatus, a Press TV correspondent in Abbottabad reported.

    The US authorities say Pakistan was unaware of the operation that killed the al-Qaeda leader in his compound in northeastern Pakistan.

    Amid a growing controversy about how much Pakistani authorities knew about bin Laden, there are questions that how two US military helicopters landed near Islamabad without the knowledge of Pakistan’s Inter- Services Intelligence (ISI) and the military.

    US lawmakers and senior officials have urged Pakistan to prove it did not know about bin Laden’s hideout.

    Reports say it is really hard for the Pakistani people to believe that the entire operation was a surprise for the Pakistani authorities.

    Some analysts say there is a possibility that the al-Qaeda militants were living in the compound under the surveillance of ISI when the US military carried out the operation.

    They say the operation was a show prearranged between the US and ISI and that bin Laden was not in the house as he had already been killed.

    Benazir Bhutto, in a 2007 interview following a failed assassination attempt on her, said bin Laden had been “murdered” years ago.

    In response to a question whether any of the assassins had links with the government, Bhutto said, “Yes but one of them is a very key figure in security, he is a former military officer … and had dealings with Omar Sheikh, the man who murdered Osama bin Laden.”

    US President Barack Obama announced late on Sunday that the al-Qaeda leader had been killed in a military attack on a compound in Abbottabad.

    Meanwhile, contradictory stories are emerging from the White House about the military operation. One of the contradictions includes comments that bin Laden was unarmed but put up resistance.

    Many believe American Special Forces could have arrested the al-Qaeda leader without having to kill him and a question raised is why bin Laden’s body was buried at sea so soon after his death.

    A US official says bin Laden’s body has been buried at sea, alleging that his hasty burial was in accordance with Islamic law, which requires burial within 24 hours of death.

    This is while burial at sea is not an Islamic practice and Islam does not determine a timeframe for burial.


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