The Popularity of Nibiru (Is it hope, or despair?) February 10, 2009
Posted by dad2059 in Nibiru, Singularity, Space, UFOs, Universe, ancient advanced cultures, ancient technology, astronomy, history, paranormal, planets, religion, science, science fiction.
Tags: Ancient astronauts, astronomy, mythic gods, Nibiru, Planet X, religion, Technological Singularity
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During a brief email chat I had recently with long time commenter Carl Nemo, I asked him why I was still getting a lot of comments on the Nibiru post I made last year, A Nibiru Update . Here is part of the answer Nemo gave me, and I’m sure he wouldn’t mind me posting it:
The arrival of Planet X represents the possibility of planetary redemption a major cleansing of much that is bad with overpopulation and general crowding as surely one of them. So I believe at a subconscious level that people are seeking a paradigm shift that will somehow terminally upset the elitists’ applecart and their seemingly slam dunk plans for the citizens of planet earth.
Whether it’s Planet X, or the return of Jesus or whatever many folks are looking for a way out even if it means their immolation.
Nemo makes a good point here, in which he analyses that the coming of Nibiru, if it exists, is equivalent to the Second Coming of Christ, The 12th Imam and the New Age in 2012 as foretold by the Mayan calendar. I would like to add another event that is techno-scientific in nature, although hard-core “empiricists” would argue against this premise and deny it to the very end, the Technological Singularity.
All of the above events are believed to either rescue the ‘faithful’ , transform, or transcend humans and the Earth into a new ‘Age’ in which there will be no more war, death, hunger, greed, want and the guilty will get their just punishment. All you have to do is to believe, have faith or maybe actively work toward that end.
Sounds good in theory, n’est pas?
Nibiru started out as a god in ancient Sumerian texts in approximately 4,000 BC (I use the old ‘Before and After’ Christ thing here) , primarily in the old stories of Enki , Enlil and the Anunna. From there, in the estimation of Zecharia Sitchin, the Sumerians were actually recording events, not mythology.
However, most language translators and mainstream archeologists often scoff at Sitchin’s theories, often calling them “incorrect” according to Wikipedia:
When Sitchin wrote his books, only specialists could read the Sumerian language, but now anyone can check his translations by utilizing the 2006 book Sumerian Lexicon.[7] Sitchin’s translations of both individual words and of larger portions of ancient texts are generally found to be incorrect.[8][9]
I am not a language scholar, so you must draw your own conclusions here. In my estimation, although the planetary collision theory is good (the current theory on how our Moon was formed draws on this), Sitchin’s time frame misses the mark. It would take hundreds of millions of years to accomplish what Sitchin says was accomplished in 45 million years.
Science has not disproved the existence of Nibiru (Planet X) however. The New Scientist magazine recently posted an article on whether Nibiru exists or not. And the findings might surprise you:
If we know enough to say the solar system is a filigree construction, we might reasonably assume we know where all its bits are. But lurking in the solar system’s dark recesses, rumour has it, is an unsighted world - Planet X, a frozen body perhaps as large as Mars, or even Earth.
Planet X would be the most significant addition to the solar system since the discovery of Pluto, the now notorious non-planet, in 1930. When the International Astronomical Union voted to downgrade Pluto to dwarf planet status in 2006, they established three criteria for a fully blown planet in our solar system: it must orbit the sun; its gravity must suffice to mould it into a near-spherical shape; and it must be massive enough to have ploughed its orbit clear of other bits and bobs. Pluto falls down on this third point. It is just one of many Kuiper belt objects (KBOs), icy bits of debris that pepper space from Neptune’s orbit at 30 astronomical units out to around 50 AU, where 1 AU is the distance between Earth and the sun.
Any new object would have to be well clear of the Kuiper belt to qualify as a planet. Yet intriguingly, it is studies of the belt that have suggested the planet’s existence. Some KBOs travel in extremely elongated orbits around the sun. Others have steep orbits almost at right angles to the orbits of all the major planets. “Those could be signs of perturbation from a massive distant object,” says Robert Jedicke, a solar system scientist at the University of Hawaii.
Note that astronomers would designate a ‘Planet X’ as a large Kuiper Belt object, which means that it would be colder than cold, with its atmosphere frozen solid on its surface. But they haven’t debunked the possibility of it either, have they?
The question is, “Could intelligent beings exist on such a world?”
The short answer is, outside of science-fiction, no (Based on our current knowledge of mainstream biology).
So that leaves us at the beginning, does Nibiru bring us hope or despair?
If you’re hardwired to be of a religious persuasion, yes. The Coming of Planet X can bring both, hope for the faithful, despair and judgement for the guilty.
But if you’re an agnostic like myself, science has yet to prove its existence, but it’s very likely it does.
Just not in the form most folks think it is.
Sources
Is there a Planet X?
The Official Web Site of Zecharia Sitchin
Zecharia Sitchin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Technological singularity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Posted by dad2059 in Nibiru, Singularity, Space, UFOs, Universe, ancient advanced cultures, ancient technology, astronomy, history, paranormal, planets, religion, science, science fiction.
Tags: Ancient astronauts, astronomy, mythic gods, Nibiru, Planet X, religion, Technological Singularity
trackback
During a brief email chat I had recently with long time commenter Carl Nemo, I asked him why I was still getting a lot of comments on the Nibiru post I made last year, A Nibiru Update . Here is part of the answer Nemo gave me, and I’m sure he wouldn’t mind me posting it:
The arrival of Planet X represents the possibility of planetary redemption a major cleansing of much that is bad with overpopulation and general crowding as surely one of them. So I believe at a subconscious level that people are seeking a paradigm shift that will somehow terminally upset the elitists’ applecart and their seemingly slam dunk plans for the citizens of planet earth.
Whether it’s Planet X, or the return of Jesus or whatever many folks are looking for a way out even if it means their immolation.
Nemo makes a good point here, in which he analyses that the coming of Nibiru, if it exists, is equivalent to the Second Coming of Christ, The 12th Imam and the New Age in 2012 as foretold by the Mayan calendar. I would like to add another event that is techno-scientific in nature, although hard-core “empiricists” would argue against this premise and deny it to the very end, the Technological Singularity.
All of the above events are believed to either rescue the ‘faithful’ , transform, or transcend humans and the Earth into a new ‘Age’ in which there will be no more war, death, hunger, greed, want and the guilty will get their just punishment. All you have to do is to believe, have faith or maybe actively work toward that end.
Sounds good in theory, n’est pas?
Nibiru started out as a god in ancient Sumerian texts in approximately 4,000 BC (I use the old ‘Before and After’ Christ thing here) , primarily in the old stories of Enki , Enlil and the Anunna. From there, in the estimation of Zecharia Sitchin, the Sumerians were actually recording events, not mythology.
However, most language translators and mainstream archeologists often scoff at Sitchin’s theories, often calling them “incorrect” according to Wikipedia:
When Sitchin wrote his books, only specialists could read the Sumerian language, but now anyone can check his translations by utilizing the 2006 book Sumerian Lexicon.[7] Sitchin’s translations of both individual words and of larger portions of ancient texts are generally found to be incorrect.[8][9]
I am not a language scholar, so you must draw your own conclusions here. In my estimation, although the planetary collision theory is good (the current theory on how our Moon was formed draws on this), Sitchin’s time frame misses the mark. It would take hundreds of millions of years to accomplish what Sitchin says was accomplished in 45 million years.
Science has not disproved the existence of Nibiru (Planet X) however. The New Scientist magazine recently posted an article on whether Nibiru exists or not. And the findings might surprise you:
If we know enough to say the solar system is a filigree construction, we might reasonably assume we know where all its bits are. But lurking in the solar system’s dark recesses, rumour has it, is an unsighted world - Planet X, a frozen body perhaps as large as Mars, or even Earth.
Planet X would be the most significant addition to the solar system since the discovery of Pluto, the now notorious non-planet, in 1930. When the International Astronomical Union voted to downgrade Pluto to dwarf planet status in 2006, they established three criteria for a fully blown planet in our solar system: it must orbit the sun; its gravity must suffice to mould it into a near-spherical shape; and it must be massive enough to have ploughed its orbit clear of other bits and bobs. Pluto falls down on this third point. It is just one of many Kuiper belt objects (KBOs), icy bits of debris that pepper space from Neptune’s orbit at 30 astronomical units out to around 50 AU, where 1 AU is the distance between Earth and the sun.
Any new object would have to be well clear of the Kuiper belt to qualify as a planet. Yet intriguingly, it is studies of the belt that have suggested the planet’s existence. Some KBOs travel in extremely elongated orbits around the sun. Others have steep orbits almost at right angles to the orbits of all the major planets. “Those could be signs of perturbation from a massive distant object,” says Robert Jedicke, a solar system scientist at the University of Hawaii.
Note that astronomers would designate a ‘Planet X’ as a large Kuiper Belt object, which means that it would be colder than cold, with its atmosphere frozen solid on its surface. But they haven’t debunked the possibility of it either, have they?
The question is, “Could intelligent beings exist on such a world?”
The short answer is, outside of science-fiction, no (Based on our current knowledge of mainstream biology).
So that leaves us at the beginning, does Nibiru bring us hope or despair?
If you’re hardwired to be of a religious persuasion, yes. The Coming of Planet X can bring both, hope for the faithful, despair and judgement for the guilty.
But if you’re an agnostic like myself, science has yet to prove its existence, but it’s very likely it does.
Just not in the form most folks think it is.
Sources
Is there a Planet X?
The Official Web Site of Zecharia Sitchin
Zecharia Sitchin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Technological singularity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
________________________