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Thread: Vallee: Fatima Event Was UFO

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    Vallee: Fatima Event Was UFO

    What Really Happened in Fatima, Portugal October 13, 1917 ?

    One of the most recognized Religious events happened that day and some people think it was more than just the Blessed Virgin Mary appearing to three children. Many believe this was the biggest UFO sighting of all time.

    Excerpted from _Cosmic Conflict_

    More seriously, the description made at Fatima, Portugal, OF A
    our resume of the 'flying saucer' legend..."

    In this same book, Vallee states: "The crowd that stood in a field
    in Fatima, a small village in the district of Leiria, some sixty-two
    miles north of Lisbon, on October 13, 1917, was waiting there for a
    miracle, because three children had been assured such an event would
    take place after a number of meetings with an 'entity' that came from
    the sky in a globe of light. The witnesses were three shepherds:
    Lucia, aged ten, and her cousins Francisco Mario and Jacinto Marto,
    aged nine and seven. Today, Fatima is one of the most celebrated
    places of pilgrimage in the entire world.

    "...According to the very words of the Reverend General Vicar of
    Leiria, who was one of the witnesses, the lady came in an 'aeroplane
    of light,' an 'immense globe, flying westwards, at moderate speed. It
    irradiated a very bright light.' Some other witnesses saw a white
    being coming out of the globe, which several minutes later took off,
    disappearing in the direction of the sun.

    "The last episode was the miracle itself. It was seen by seventy
    thousand persons, among whom were pious individuals and atheists,
    clergymen and reporters from a socialist newspaper. As promised, it
    happened on October 13 at noon. Among the crowd was Professor Almeida
    Garrett, of Coimbra University, a scientist, who described the
    phenomena in the following terms: 'It was raining hard, and the rain
    trickled down everyone's clothes. Suddenly, the sun shone through the
    dense cloud which covered it: everybody looked in its direction. IT
    I don't think that it could be compared to a dull silver disk, as
    someone said later in Fatima. No. It rather possessed a clear,
    changing brightness, which one could compare to a pearl. It looked
    like a polished wheel. This is not poetry. My eyes have seen it. This
    clear-shaped disk suddenly began turning. It rotated with increasing
    speed. Suddenly, the crowd began crying with anguish. The sun
    (disk?), revolving all the time, began falling toward the earth,
    reddish and bloody, threatening to crush everyone under its fiery

    "...Fatima was a modern event, yet it is already clouded with the
    distortions of 'belief'. The Photographs of the object had
    'disappeared.' The key prophecy has been suppressed. Lucia shut
    herself away from the world. As the years passed, the object was
    turned into a 'dancing sun,' the angel hair became 'rose petals,' and
    the entire phenomena was removed from the field of science and
    entrusted to the religionists...

    "There have been many modern miracles of the Fatima type, but they
    rarely gain much attention outside of religious circles. The flying
    saucers get much more publicity than the miracles.

    Vallee Says Fatima Event Was UFO

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    Re: Vallee: Fatima Event Was UFO

    Our Lady of Fátima (pronounced [ˈfatimɐ]) is the title given to the vision of the Blessed Virgin Mary that was said to have appeared before three shepherd children at Fátima, Portugal on the 13th day of six consecutive months in 1917, starting on 13 May, the Fátima holiday. The three children were Lúcia Santos and her cousins, siblings Jacinta and Francisco Marto. The title of Our Lady of the Rosary is also sometimes used in reference to the same apparition (although it was first used in 1208 for the reported apparition in the church of Prouille); because the children related that the Lady in the apparition specifically identified Herself as "the Lady of the Rosary." It is also common to see a combination of these titles, i.e., Our Lady of the Rosary of Fátima (Portuguese: ''Nossa Senhora do Rosário de Fátima'').

    Lúcia described seeing the lady as "brighter than the sun, shedding rays of light clearer and stronger than a crystal ball filled with the most sparkling water and pierced by the burning rays of the sun." According to Lúcia's account, the lady confided to the children three secrets, known as the Three Secrets of Fátima. She exhorted the children to do penance and to make sacrifices to save sinners. The children wore tight cords around their waists to cause pain, abstained from drinking water on hot days, and performed other works of penance. Most important, Lúcia said that the lady asked them to say the Rosary every day, reiterating many times that the Rosary was the key to personal and world peace. Many young Portuguese men, including relatives of the visionaries, were then fighting in World War I.

    Thousands of people flocked to Fátima and Aljustrel in the ensuing months, drawn by reports of visions and miracles. On August 13, 1917, the provincial administrator and anticlerical Freemason , Artur Santos (no relation), believing that the events were politically disruptive, intercepted and jailed the children before they could reach the Cova da Iria that day. Prisoners held with them in the provincial jail later testified that the children, while upset, were consoled by the inmates, and then led the inmates in praying the Rosary. The administrator interrogated the children and unsuccessfully attempted to get them to divulge the content of the secrets. In the process, he tried to convince the children that he would boil them one by one in a pot of oil unless they confessed the secrets. The children, however, resisted. That month, instead of the usual apparition in the Cova da Iria on the 13th, the children reported that they saw the Lady on August 19 at nearby Valinhos.

    Our Lady of Fátima - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    On October 11th 1917, Lucia described the 'lady as being one metre tall, about 12-15 years old, with black eyes and wearing checkered clothing and "was unlike ANY image of Our Lady or any other saints that they had seen up to then."

    Last edited by Aragorn; April 20th, 2009 at 11:30 PM.

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    Re: Vallee: Fatima Event Was UFO

    Miracle of the Sun

    As early as July the Lady had promised a miracle for the final apparition, on October 13, so that all would believe. What transpired became known as "Miracle of the Sun". A crowd believed to be approximately 70,000 in number, including newspaper reporters and photographers, gathered at the Cova da Iria. The incessant rain had finally ceased and a thin layer of clouds cloaked the silver disc of the sun such that it could be looked upon without hurting one’s eyes. Lúcia called out to the crowd to look at the sun. Sometime while Lucia was pointing towards the sun and seeing various religious figures in the sky, the sun appeared to change colors and rotate, like a fire wheel. For some, the sun appeared to fall from the sky before retreating, for others, it zig-zagged. The phenomenon was witnessed by most in the crowd as well as people many miles away.

    Columnist Avelino de Almeida of O Século (Portugal's most influential newspaper, which was pro-government in policy and avowedly anti-clerical), reported the following: "Before the astonished eyes of the crowd, whose aspect was biblical as they stood bare-headed, eagerly searching the sky, the sun trembled, made sudden incredible movements outside all cosmic laws - the sun 'danced' according to the typical expression of the people." Eye specialist Dr. Domingos Pinto Coelho, writing for the newspaper Ordem reported "The sun, at one moment surrounded with scarlet flame, at another aureoled in yellow and deep purple, seemed to be in an exceeding fast and whirling movement, at times appearing to be loosened from the sky and to be approaching the earth, strongly radiating heat". The special reporter for the October 17, 1917 edition of the Lisbon daily, O Dia, reported the following, "...the silver sun, enveloped in the same gauzy grey light, was seen to whirl and turn in the circle of broken clouds...The light turned a beautiful blue, as if it had come through the stained-glass windows of a cathedral, and spread itself over the people who knelt with outstretched hands...people wept and prayed with uncovered heads, in the presence of a miracle they had awaited. The seconds seemed like hours, so vivid were they."

    No movement or other phenomenon of the sun was registered by scientists at the time. According to contemporary reports from poet Afonso Lopes Vieira and schoolteacher Delfina Lopes with her students and other witnesses in the town of Alburita, the solar phenomena were visible from up to forty kilometers away.
    Last edited by Aragorn; April 20th, 2009 at 10:55 PM.

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    Re: Vallee: Fatima Event Was UFO

    In October, so many people were aware of the phenomena that over 50,000 had gathered at the Cova da Iria to witness the event. Much to the delight of freethinking skeptics, it was raining that day. The sky was completely overcast. Some spectators saw a column of blue smoke in the vicinity of the children that appeared and disappeared three times. Then suddenly the rain ceased and through the clouds was seen a radiant disk, not the sun, spinning, and throwing off fantastic streamers of light-a constantly changing montage of red, violet, blue, yellow, and white. This continued for about four minutes.

    Rare (not confirmed authentic) photo of disk which appeared at Fatima, Portugal on Oct. 13, 1917. The disk is shown after it had descended, near the horizon (courtesy Association for the Understanding of Man. Taken from the book Fatima Prophecy: Days of Darkness Promise of Light)

    Then the disk advanced toward the earth until it was just over the crowd. The heat was enormous and many were terrified the end of the world had come. When it finally retreated into the sky, the shaken masses realized that their clothes and the ground were completely dry--although they had been soaked to the skin a few minutes before.

    The Roots of Consciousness: Folklore, Other Worlds

    Some of the witnesses described seeing a silver spinning disc or globe, and claimed that there were "beings" or people waving goodbye from inside the UFO before it disappeared back in to the clouds in wich it came from

    Last edited by Aragorn; April 21st, 2009 at 03:48 AM.

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    Last edited by Aragorn; April 20th, 2009 at 11:44 PM.

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