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And another quote from that same thread...

An observation I made... and I still believe that I was right on the mark.

"I want to call your attention to how the " spiral" for Matrix started. It was because Captain Dave mentioned that there might be something operating negatively that was HUMAN in its background..... suddenly all of Matrixs defense systems.... whether he realized it or not..... started lighting up. I could see it happening but there was nothing I could do about it..... click, click, click, click..... defense defense defense.... which translated attack, attack, attack."


Linda

And this last quote from

There are moments when I ask myself this troubling question about Matrix and his spiral into nothingness. Is it just me.... or did it happen ..... almost too easily.... trippingly almost.... everything was fine one moment and the next moment he was out of here.

That is suspicious to me. Have to say it.

And if I were to go REALLY paranoid on all of you I might suggest that we were the victims of some sort of " tag team" where one member sets up the conversation.... giving the other cause to react... its all planned ahead of course.... and then they BOTH punch out. Leaving behind..... what..... Matrix's " information?" and a group of people who have spent alot of time pondering it all.... toward what end?

It disturbs me that someone who was so passionate about what he was doing here was so quick to abandon the effort. That doesn't ring true to me.

Just sharing my borderland thoughts. Take them to consider or leave them on the floor..... Linda

Of course.... Seeing someone who was " so passionate" about something.... suddenly and without explanation... drop the entire subject and walk off.....is an observation that has occurred before.

Some of you are familiar with certain Forums that sort of unexplainably developed " personal" antagonizms and then disbanded and fell out. I haven't kept up with alot but I have heard that there were many.... some of you can tell us more about that.....

My personal experience was with Paul Schatzkin who maintained his passion and enthusiasm until he had a meeting in Pa with Mikado. And then within three weeks I believe he had come to the conclusion that his six years of passionate work was nothing " but a bag of empty shells" that should be treated with no regard at all. In fact he demonstrated that disregard by publishing the manuscript without even doing the standard proof reading that should have been expected from a professional writer.

And as far as I know Paul has said next to nothing about the project, his work, or the subject of Townsend Brown whatsoever. Someone correct me if I am wrong on that. He issued something called " Epic Fail" as a sort of personal blog saying that he was not going to continue....and its worth quoting properly but I believe that there was a phrase about " mental stress" in there too. What did he mean ?

So yes.... I have seen the reactions that some might have toward an outside force.

Strange to me that Mikado was present both with the Schatzkin discintigration and with the implosion at the Pegasus Forum. As I said ... they have wrapped the entire Townsend Brown threads with the name of Mikado and then set them out there.... and I notice that there has been absolutely no activity in that area. Was that intentional?

Linda

Noticed the GOFUNDME adverts on pegasus.
Basically Zorgon is begging for a new vehicle, His wife for funds to pay for studies, and Amy to further Her mission of free energy.
http://www.gofundme.com/1jan8o

Maybe it's a Brit thing?, but begging really annoys Me, unless as in Amy's case it is for a specific no gain personally reason.
Zorgon has laid it on with a great dollop of sympathy , with His legs giving in , and His v3ehicle too expensive to repair.
http://www.gofundme.com/1rndvo
hobbit

I will look into that Hobbit. Thanks for the heads up.... just continuing here for a moment and then I will move off this subject........... Looking back at the " Meltdown"

And Undo finally waved in with her comments.... some of which I have quoted here but you really need to read the entire thread.... Undo though can be very perceptinve and its interesting that she mentions a " dream" that was had here.... since we have opened a new look at DREAMS... this strikes me as being important...

The call to " Be AWARE!"

"hmm, first i've seen this thread.

interesting to read it after the fact. this is my take on what happened:

captain dave melted down after having a dream and posting it in matrix's forum. i responded to his dream, and then noticed matrix was posting in the thread as well, and he was upset. that made me do one of those sideways head tilts, like what the.....

so i read closer to see if i could distinguish where he felt he was being attacked. instead of seeing it in his favor, however, instead i saw it in dave's favor, and that was my response. not that matrix was bad, but that he should've viewed it as a reasonable query in a conspiracy type of forum. people get suspicious if you spell something wrong, or say anything that their minds can construe as odd. he however, thought dave was suggesting that he was making dangerous technology. then when linda started to discuss it, by then dave melted the rest of the way and ran off, followed by me trying to calm matrix down, which made it even worse.

i can't help but thinking some fast and furious private messages had been schwinging back and forth here, prior to and after each event, and that's where the real info about what happened, really is. On my side of it.... the fast and furious Private Messages from Matrix were pure attack mode. Worse insults than I really have ever experienced and it seemed to come out of nowhere. Like you Undo ( if you happen to read this.... I had my head turned sideways too.) Linda

So where now has that left the subject of the Townsend Brown technology in the Pegasus Forum? Shelved. With a nice package wrapped up in Mikado responses... this way and that way... and Hobbit and I booted off! It would almost be funny if it wasn't so darned serious!

So why did Matrix become so inflamed? And Why did it seem to start with Daves seemingly innocent questions? Of course I have previously considered that the entire " ACT" was just that.... I apparently had started asking questions that made things uncomfortable.... and then when I transmitted a message to the Forum ( it was actually from Logan).... maybe some of you might remember it.... I simply said...." The Boys from the Watsonia Barracks" say hello! I believe that it was Soma whoever who responded but only after I had expressed my concerns about what was going on with Matrix to Pimander ( who says now he had nothing to do with all of this?) People went in so many directions I couldn't even keep track! The funniest thing about this all was that I had no idea who or what " Watsonia Barracks represented but Matrix sure in heck did.

Anybody have any explanations for ANY of this?

I am anxious to get on with the dream section but just want to see how " information" was transmitted in this particular instance. People don't like to consider that they have been used but even I have to look at what happened in this and see where we all had a role to play......All of us were having our " buttons pushed" and for a reason.

Linda

Linda Brown said:

So where now has that left the subject of the Townsend Brown technology in the Pegasus Forum? Shelved. With a nice package wrapped up in Mikado responses... this way and that way... and Hobbit and I booted off! It would almost be funny if it wasn't so darned serious!

So why did Matrix become so inflamed? And Why did it seem to start with Daves seemingly innocent questions? Of course I have previously considered that the entire " ACT" was just that.... I apparently had started asking questions that made things uncomfortable.... and then when I transmitted a message to the Forum ( it was actually from Logan).... maybe some of you might remember it.... I simply said...." The Boys from the Watsonia Barracks" say hello! I believe that it was Soma whoever who responded but only after I had expressed my concerns about what was going on with Matrix to Pimander ( who says now he had nothing to do with all of this?) People went in so many directions I couldn't even keep track! The funniest thing about this all was that I had no idea who or what " Watsonia Barracks represented but Matrix sure in heck did.

Anybody have any explanations for ANY of this?

I am anxious to get on with the dream section but just want to see how " information" was transmitted in this particular instance. People don't like to consider that they have been used but even I have to look at what happened in this and see where we all had a role to play......All of us were having our " buttons pushed" and for a reason.

Linda

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If You have a technology that can permeate the planet, then You will need bases in the extremes of the planet?
Maybe they have BIG EARS...like elephants?
hobbit

Sorry that Zorgon is dealing with health problems, financial and vehicle problems. Thats a difficult combination. Lets hope that his friends and associates will help him out. I can see why he has seemed distracted. Linda

Exactly Hobbit. Very Big Ears.

The Watsonia Barracks? Zorgon says its a housing development. If that is true why did his " Order of the Mystic Star" Member Somamech declare suddenly that his LIFE HAD BEEN THREATENED??????..... MY GOODNESS!, I thought.... "thats a bit dramatic isn't it.?".... but maybe he was caught in the middle of something and when all the lights centered on him and the sirens went off.... he got just a bit spooked? Maybe thats how he interpretted it. He must have been doing something serious?????

I can't figure any other reason for a resonse like that.... can anybody?

I haven't the foggiest idea what was going on but it wasn't .....NOTHING.

And it looks like Zorgon really didn't have a clue.

Linda

Just one last note since we are on the Pegasus thread. Note that on their front page they declare that they have 330 members.... but with a " total posts" figure of 46,872. If you add up the posts that they have listed it leaves thousands that are apparently happening " behind the curtain." Now thats fine....Zorgon says its a " private" website and that he has a right to have private discussions amongst his members.... and if they were discussing cookies and cake making I would entirely agree.

He might understand the passing interest in why they would toss some members out for asking what seemed to be rational questions about the possibilities that dangerous technologies might in fact be a topic of conversation???

After all.... if the " Boys from the Watsonia Barracks" were interested.... maybe there was something worth taking another look into? Linda

hobbit said:

Noticed the GOFUNDME adverts on pegasus.
Basically Zorgon is begging for a new vehicle, His wife for funds to pay for studies, and Amy to further Her mission of free energy.
Planetary Solution Efforts by Amyellen Leib - GoFundMe

Maybe it's a Brit thing?, but begging really annoys Me, unless as in Amy's case it is for a specific no gain personally reason.
Zorgon has laid it on with a great dollop of sympathy , with His legs giving in , and His v3ehicle too expensive to repair.
We need a new family vehicle by Ron Schmidt - GoFundMe
hobbit

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Free energy!!!?? Good luck with THAT. I would be surprised if Amy did create free energy and a
Also good lock with convincing scientist that would be a tough one. -dcooper

I have no comments on Zorgons decisions regarding his search for funding.

I still don't know why he chose to " attack" my credibility and to send his moderator Exterminator over here to stir trouble and waste time on this Forum... but apparently it has not had much of an effect and I wonder now if it was worth it for all of them?

The search continues....

Thomas Townsend Brown: Part IV of the Holiday Serial | The Canonical Hamiltonian

Linda

Linda Brown said:

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My personal experience was with Paul Schatzkin who maintained his passion and enthusiasm until he had a meeting in Pa with Mikado. And then within three weeks I believe he had come to the conclusion that his six years of passionate work was nothing " but a bag of empty shells" that should be treated with no regard at all. In fact he demonstrated that disregard by publishing the manuscript without even doing the standard proof reading that should have been expected from a professional writer.

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Strange to me that Mikado was present both with the Schatzkin discintigration and with the implosion at the Pegasus Forum. As I said ... they have wrapped the entire Townsend Brown threads with the name of Mikado and then set them out there.... and I notice that there has been absolutely no activity in that area. Was that intentional?

Linda

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You have been told so many...so very many times what happened at the meeting in Huntingdon. Paul was expecting someone else to come and they didn't show up. How many damn times do you need to be told?

As to the Pegasus, if you wouldn't have continued to post statements that were untrue that I rebutted, you would still be there...most probably until they figured that you couldn't deliver because you mouth makes checks your ass can't cash.

Mikado

Linda Brown said:

So where now has that left the subject of the Townsend Brown technology in the Pegasus Forum? Shelved. With a nice package wrapped up in Mikado responses... this way and that way... and Hobbit and I booted off! It would almost be funny if it wasn't so darned serious!

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Linda

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What is a "Mikado response"?

Mikado

Linda Brown said:

Exactly Hobbit. Very Big Ears.

The Watsonia Barracks? Zorgon says its a housing development. If that is true why did his " Order of the Mystic Star" Member Somamech declare suddenly that his LIFE HAD BEEN THREATENED??????..... MY GOODNESS!, I thought.... "thats a bit dramatic isn't it.?".... but maybe he was caught in the middle of something and when all the lights centered on him and the sirens went off.... he got just a bit spooked? Maybe thats how he interpretted it. He must have been doing something serious?????

I can't figure any other reason for a resonse like that.... can anybody?

I haven't the foggiest idea what was going on but it wasn't .....NOTHING.

And it looks like Zorgon really didn't have a clue.

Linda

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I must agree in that it is quite a dramatic statement but then Linda, you do quite well with the drama yourself.

Mikado

Linda Brown said:

I have no comments on Zorgons decisions regarding his search for funding.

I still don't know why he chose to " attack" my credibility and to send his moderator Exterminator over here to stir trouble and waste time on this Forum... but apparently it has not had much of an effect and I wonder now if it was worth it for all of them?

The search continues....

Thomas Townsend Brown: Part IV of the Holiday Serial | The Canonical Hamiltonian

Linda

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You really don't know why or you refuse to accept what has been told to you so very many times? Part of it is the "Due-Diligence" that was being done on the Hut and your incessant defending of anonymous individuals. Secondly, your incessant posting after my rebuttals with nothing more than innuendo, the consistent repetition and yet the consistent changing of the truth as you saw it and continually proclaiming with each change that you were correct. Just how many truths are supposed to be true?

One of the final straws was were I started a thread in regard to "Electrogravitics: the Holy Grail" and you couldn't resist putting your two cents in which only substantiated everything I claimed about you. I predicted it to Zorgon and you didn't let me down. What implemented that thread was how you kept responding to me posts that were interacting with the person, can't remember their handle but it was in regard to his theory on the aether. I would respond to him/her and you would have to come and post digging at me. You probably don't remember all of that but then I truly don't expect you to.

Mikado

Those are classic "Mikado responses."

Do you have anything new to say Mikado or are you still stuck in the old " little girls stomping mode" attack?

Linda

Linda Brown said:

Those are classic "Mikado responses."

Do you have anything new to say Mikado or are you still stuck in the old " little girls stomping mode" attack?

Linda

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Those are not attacks Linda, they are rebuttals to what you say when you include my name. Secondly, since you are asking if I am saying anything new then you admitting that you have heard it before and yet you persist in giving a rendition of the truth that is yours and yours alone.

Truth does become repetitious of that, I admit.

Mikado

Mikado... You said...
"You really don't know why or you refuse to accept what has been told to you so very many times? Part of it is the "Due-Diligence" that was being done on the Hut and your incessant defending of anonymous individuals. Secondly, your incessant posting after my rebuttals with nothing more than innuendo, the consistent repetition and yet the consistent changing of the truth as you saw it and continually proclaiming with each change that you were correct. Just how many truths are supposed to be true?"

Perhaps thats the biggest problem that you are having with me Mikado. I refuse to accept what you are shoveling out there as " the truth". The World According to Mikado. The ONE and only TRUTH.

What have I said above that you dispute? I said that you met with Paul in Pa. Is that correct?
I said that weeks after Paul returned to his home he mysteriously shelved a longterm project that he had been writing for six years, calling the effort on a personal blog ( the infamous " Epic Fail") a " bag full of empty shells") as he tried to explain his reasoning for quiting. Was that correct?

I have not mentioned the particulars of the meeting at Huntingdon. You have been the one busy doing that.

Show me what I have said here that is incorrect and I will rephrase what I have said.

You just don't want the world to accept those facts. YOU met with Paul..... and weeks afterward Paul quit the project. People can draw their own conclusions if they study the situation thoroughly. They don't particularly need your version of the " truth". And if they do note it.... they need to know that.... just as you have said.... there are different versions of the truth in action here.

Linda

Linda Brown said:

Mikado... You said...
"You really don't know why or you refuse to accept what has been told to you so very many times? Part of it is the "Due-Diligence" that was being done on the Hut and your incessant defending of anonymous individuals. Secondly, your incessant posting after my rebuttals with nothing more than innuendo, the consistent repetition and yet the consistent changing of the truth as you saw it and continually proclaiming with each change that you were correct. Just how many truths are supposed to be true?"

Perhaps thats the biggest problem that you are having with me Mikado. I refuse to accept what you are shoveling out there as " the truth". The World According to Mikado. The ONE and only TRUTH.

What have I said above that you dispute? I said that you met with Paul in Pa. Is that correct?
I said that weeks after Paul returned to his home he mysteriously shelved a longterm project that he had been writing for six years, calling the effort on a personal blog ( the infamous " Epic Fail") a " bag full of empty shells") as he tried to explain his reasoning for quiting. Was that correct?

I have not mentioned the particulars of the meeting at Huntingdon. You have been the one busy doing that.

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No Linda, you mislead and obfuscate the facts as usual. YOU have been the one, over at the HUT and the Token, the Pegasus and even here that Paul quit after the meeting and you have been intimating and outright saying that it was something I did or said and that I influenced him in some manner. Do a search and you will see. Do you think that those that are reading any of this tripe don't see this?

Linda Brown said:

Show me what I have said here that is incorrect and I will rephrase what I have said.

You just don't want the world to accept those facts. YOU met with Paul..... and weeks afterward Paul quit the project. People can draw their own conclusions if they study the situation thoroughly. They don't particularly need your version of the " truth". And if they do note it.... they need to know that.... just as you have said.... there are different versions of the truth in action here.

Linda

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You weren't there but yet you know the truth. Others weren't there so they don't know the truth. What does that boil down to? No one was there. I have stated the same story over and over and it never varies but you want individuals to believe something entirely different than what happened to benefit you in some manner. You were found out. Paul thought he was duped and that no matter where he turned, the shells he would find were empty.

Do you realize that "things" that were talked about were from sources that were anonymous, twigsnapper/Morgan/etc, and at that time, Paul KNEW about the IP addresses. You had myself and one other person vouching for these individuals and putting our honor on the table in vouching for them. You don't want to accept the fact that both Verne and I were in the wrong place at the wrong time and YOU used us to further your agenda. Pure and simple.

Paul felt duped. Here were two individuals that appeared to be in on the ruse. Vouching for two individuals, twigsnapper and Barrett, who were posting from the same IP not to mention a slew of others. And you are the culpable one in all of it. You insist on blaming me for Paul doing what he did but you WERE NOT THERE! You don't know the questions he asked and I was TOO STUPID to see where he was going.

Wake up and smell the coffee.

Mikado