Linda Brown – Daughter of Thomas Townsend Brown (TTB)

[Mikado]

One wonders why it was important for those on the Pegasus Consortium to try so desperately to challenge my authority as the daughter of Thomas Townsend Brown.... and why also it has been important for Mikado to create messages on the HUT ( ttownsendbrown.com) ( which he controls) to slur my credibility.

This is not something that is simply happenstance. Its really nothing personal either.... there is an agenda behind those actions.

Zorgon and his crew and Mikado and his efforts will not turn me from my chore here. I don't need to even say that. My actions will speak for themselves. Linda

Do you see how thick you are? I have repeatedly affirmed you as Dr. Brown's daughter. All you need to do is look up the posts on this forum but you continually wish to corral me with Zorgon.

As to your actions, to those with an IQ higher than 90, yep, your posts define your character.

So, no explanations why the sudden attack on Kim? What prompted you to reference that posts? Could it be that you got your dander up? Afterall, you were over at the Hut, persistently and consistently, rereading posts and it is funny that whenever you do, a post will appear here. Almost as if you want to stir the pot.

Kim's son had no bearing on anything but you felt it necessary to take that post and bring it here. Could you possibly explain the relevance of it on this thread which is titled - "Linda Brown - Daughter of Thomas Townsend Brown". I would really enjoy hearing how it fits in but then on one hand, it does....

.....it fits in with your personality to inflict emotional pain on someone even though the subject of that attack has no bearing on the topic at hand.

Yes, it fits quite well for this thread is the culmination of your narcissism.

I want to know how the subject you brought up fits in, that is, if my explanation above is incorrect.

Mikado

 

[Mikado]

At one point Mikado launched into what he called " Due Diligence" on Dads story.... especially something that had been called " A short autobiography" which Dad wrote in the early 70s. For some reason Mikado decided that it was flawed.... and possibly written by someone else.... so he strongly encouraged a couple of English researchers to post their thoughts on it.... which they did..... but later when I stood up and confronted Geoffs conclusion he withdrew it and posted that notice. Of course Mikado disagreed but it was an interesting example of " arm twisting ( I thought) to Mikados agenda

? View topic - Where was Robert Sarbacher in 1945/46?.

I haven't heard a word from either Geoff or his son since this exchange and I notice that they have apparently not posted any thing else on the HUT.

"by Linda Brown » Mon May 27, 2013 7:34 am

Geoff,

I want to ask you directly why you made such an enormous effort to question the fact that Dad was the author of " A short Autobiography"

These are your exact words after a very long and exhaustive message.... which I will reprint in full.... so that other readers can see the absolute passion that you displayed in following this agenda and I want to ask you why you did this.

Were you following Mikados direction? I notice that later when you realized that I was willing to stand up and vouch for the fact that I was there when Dad himself wrote this piece that you, (as the gentleman that I believe you are), withdrew this conclusion.

The question remains...... why did you do this? What prompted you to react in this manner? Its as if you were trying to prove that someone had put that piece out rather fraudulently. And I wondered what would inspire you to do that?

Mikado was certainly pleased that you were writing what you did.

I wanted you to know that I appreciated the withdrawal of your " conclusion"... but of course not many people can read this exchange now because it has been put behind a " special password" restriction on the HUT ( if it hasn't been deleted.) I think the fact that you withdrew your charges that this short piece was NOT written by Dad was something that Mikado did not want to see out there.

Many months have gone by since this happened but now of course I am rereading most of what was written about my Dad and Mr. Sarbacher. Your earlier excellent research on Mr. Sarbacher has been a big help to me. ( even though you presented it to discredit information that I had been given by a trusted source. iI hasn't worked that way at all and I wanted to let you know that I intend to give your research proper credit and to thank you it)

I notice that you have not posted on the Hut and that puts us at a disadvantage because I will not reintroduce my energy over there.... so I am posting this here and hopefully I can reach you by Email....or perhaps someone else might be able to reach you.

But, just for the record.... it would be nice to know what prompted you to initially take such a negative stance in this conclusion....

Conclusion
For the reasons I have given in the examples above I do not believe “A Short Autobiography” was written by Townsend Brown. There are many more signs than I have discussed here that lead me to that conclusion, but I would be labouring the point to mention them all.

I am of course, not suggesting that these events in Townsend Brown’s life never occurred. I am simply pointing out that, in my view, these are not Townsend Brown’s own accounts – they are someone else’s that are falsely presented as being Townsend’s - and that this should be borne in mind when reading the misleadingly titled document, “A Short Autobiography” by T. Townsend Brown.Geoff**************************************************************************

I have suspected that your work fit very nicely into Mikados agenda. I just would like to know if he is the person who suggested that you take that slant. I believe that you would tell me the truth.



My best to you and Chris. Linda
Linda Brown
*************************************************

Geoff? Are you reading this? Have you any more to add to your research on Dr. Sarbacher ?

Linda

Geoff is not reading here. Geoff did not follow my directions. You have been told this repeatedly but you continually infer that he was performing his research at my behest.

Once again for those no intimate with the details:

The Due-Diligence was spawned from Geoff's work in looking into Halifax NA337 which Paul was informed by Morgan, as the plane used to drop Dr. Brown into Germany. Even though this ship (plane) crashed into a fjord, it's records survived in an archive in Britain along with a good deal of other records involving ships that would drop supplies and men into occupied territory. Geoff contacted me and relayed his apprehension as to the validity of information supplied to Paul Schatzkin. I told him to continue in that others were concerned over Morgan's identity as Dave and that Dave himself denied ever being Morgan.

The above is the impetus that began the Due-Diligence.

A good deal of information was posted on the Hut. For instance, Morgan told Paul that Dr. Brown came up with a way of detecting magnetic mines, however, upon a phone conversation with the son of the man who did, Dr. Brown had no connection with his Father. In fact, the information supplied to Paul almost matched the verbiage in some reports on the topic.

Further, information as to Dr. Browns' whereabouts in the late 30's and the early 40's was easily gleaned, for a price for research. but the information was not in Paul's book so was never included in the Due-Diligence.

If any one is interested here is the link to topics discussed:

The Quonset Hut ? View forum - An analysis of "Defying Gravity"

I think it only fair that the link is put here and not one from the Cosmic-Token where only redacted threads appear.

Have a brain, read for yourselves.

Mikado

PS: Geoff and his son known as Kestrel are the ones who designed the logo that appears on Linda's book and her website. They allowed her to do so, free of charge and release of copyright. All they ever wanted was truthful writing and nothing else. Is that too much to ask for in a Biography?

 

[Mikado]

Remember that when Geoff posted his retraction of that conclusion Mikado put it behind a password protected area on the HUT, an efficient way of hiding what had happened.

Linda

That is a flat out lie. Everything that is behind the password is prior to December 16th, 2011 as being archived which was in response Linda's demands as to "protecting" those valuable posts.

The first post for the Due-Diligence was made on Sun Mar 18, 2012.

Can anyone with a brain see how Linda manipulates and deceives? Is that not a form of lying? To what end?

Mikado

 

[Mikado]

No parent should have to endure what Kim has. For anyone to use that to dig at Kim and/or Mikado is beyond low. I'm siding with Kim on this one.

Catspaw///// did you actually think that I had said those things about Kim or were you just busy trying to remain in the HUTS camp? How did that work out for you?

Linda

Yes she did. Cat can think for herself, at least she used to at one time and I cannot comment as to the present since I have had no communication with her.

Is having an opinion about the actions of someone and if that opinion is contrary to a certain person, in your mind, does that mean that individual is in the "other's" camp?

So if a jury decides against a defendant, does that mean they are against them and what camp would they be in?

I am sure it worked out for Cat for she is following her path and not yours or mine and she will decide for herself and not be influenced by you or anyone else which includes myself.

Your subsequent reply to Cat should be inclusive of all individuals and not just one.

Mikado

 

[Mikado]

In all fairness, here is a link with an explanation for the the Due-Diligence.

The Quonset Hut ? View topic - What is the difference or would that be accuracy?


What is the difference or would that be accuracy?
Postby Mikado14 » Sat Mar 31, 2012 1:16 pm

I remember a time when Elizabeth Helen Drake wanted anyone to contribute any information in regard to Dr. Brown, whether it be good or bad, in aiding Paul Schatzkin to write an accurate, as much as possible, biography.

Let me use the words of Elizabeth Helen Drake to explain it all:

Welcome to the Parallel Universe ? View topic - Chapter 13 - He Made Things Up wrote:
Chapter 13 - He Made Things Up
by Elizabeth Helen Drake on Fri Mar 03, 2006 10:48 pm

The title of the Chapter was "He made things up"

I was part of the research team that descended on Denison University (which Paul mentions in this chapter). I figured I had been working on the life of Townsend Brown enough to get a feel for his personality and I was actually fairly proud of the serious work Paul and I had accomplished . (It helped knowing too that the Brown family was pleased with what we had uncovered so far)

So it was difficult for all of us to sit there and listen to a rendition of "He made things up " ...." He didn't actually do this, he didn't actually do that" .... "People Said he did such and such" .... and most of it was ....so negatively biased against Brown it was disheartening . For me I realized that I had to put my better researcher face on ... respond to very little with my own opinions and .... take notes ... I take pretty good notes.

As Paul has written in this chapter there was response from Dr. Biefelds son ,( written in 1956 to a UFO investigator named Leon Davidson) where the son states "My father never did colaborate with Mr. Brown in a scientific sense.)

Of course, we had Mr. Browns own papers that clearly stated he did .... but in this horrendous storm of negative information churned up by people who were so sure of themselves .... how could we ever find the truth?

Well, truth finds a way to the surface if you work hard enough and display enough patience and thats what Paul did. Read the last part of the chapter. Points for the Townsend Brown team!
Elizabeth

The quote in bold is what is important. Truth will survive and that was the meaning in my avatar from a short while back.

What has been taking place with this drive in performing a modest due-diligence is something that has been long overdue. So much of the book "Defying Gravity" was based upon stories, and yes I do mean stories for that is what they are until proven, that were provided primarily by two individuals - Boston/O'Riley/twigsnapper and Morgan(as named by Paul Schatzkin). These two individuals are the primary sources for activities of Dr. Brown that Paul Schatzkin relied upon. He was going to perform his due-diligence in doing his rewrite but it never went that far. One does wonder what caused Mr. Schatzkin to make the decision he did with his "Epic Fail" but then he finished writing his book in February of '08. "Epic Fail" was in January of '09, a year later so the question arises - "What did he do over that period of time?" . Perhaps the answer is "due-diligence". How does one overcome the fact that information given by anonymous sources does not check out? Even Woodward and Bernstein checked out the veracity of statements made by "deepthroat". It would only stand to reason that Mr. Schatzkin would do the same, afterall, he did a nice job on his first book and I for one would have expected the same level of expertise in this book.

All of this work that I have been doing in research, and to an extent it appears that Geoff has been doing some as well, is merely to further the veracity of Paul's work. One can take his first book and do some research on different characters, places and events and will find corresponding verification. Unfortunately, that is not possible with the book "Defying Gravity", there are way too many stories that do not hold up.

I am sure that somewhere, Linda Brown and others will be heralding this due-diligence as a witch hunt or some other such nonsense, but it is not.

In my work, I have found answers that substantiate Dr. Browns' work, which at some future point will be made public but there is still much to do which will prove that he is/was no crackpot but as the book "Defying Gravity" stands, it may be a detriment. How so one might ask? Because when the smoke settles and some verification of Dr. Browns' work is brought forth for perusal by those in academic circles, it is references such as "Defying Gravity" that can harm this very perusal, especially when someone else begins to perform a "due-diligence" of their own. There will always be that individual at some point that will look for those things negative to taint the entire work of Dr. Brown. Not going to happen if I can do something about it.

Do I have an ulterior motive? Yep, I sure do. The work I have done and will continue to do I wish not to be torn down over allegations of truthfulness in the only biography written about Dr. Brown. It would become a distraction and the media is what runs this country.

Paul Schatzkin has a contract with the Brown family to write a biography about T. Townsend Brown. That contract is still in effect as long as Paul Schatzkin is still breathing, and I do wish him a long life, and I see no further work coming forth from him in this regard so, with that in mind, I have taken it upon myself to perform a quasi "due-diligence" that will be picked up by every known web crawler and bot that will show up on those that search as to what is real and is not, what has been posted, what exists in other sites that counter the unsubstantiated claims of anonymous contributors that disappeared into the night never to be seen nor heard from again.

This is in no means meant as an attack on the writer of "Defying Gravity" but is meant to aid him if he ever so chooses to take up pen and paper to this story. Also, it is to show interested parties in the life of Dr Brown that there are those with an agenda who will fabricate information for their own and possibly nefarious needs. These anonymous individuals will be uncovered and they are being uncovered. They claim to respect Dr. Brown but instead are performing a disservice to not only the man and his life but to his family as well.

Ask yourself this question - Why when the ttbrown forum was shut down did twigsnapper never post again? and then ask yourself this question - "If he had so much respect for Dr. Brown and wanted his story told, why did he stay disappeared?".

I believe the answer to that is a well kept secret....by someone.

Mikado

PS: Judging by the hits that these posts are receiving in regard to due-diligence, it indicates that there are significant individuals interested in the truth or verifiable information that is not from an anonymous source who refuses to come forth.

 

[Catspaw56]

Yes, I did purposely not answer Linda's question. I provided clarification of my online persona be cause I was referenced in a post. I use a variety of feline personas online. I also have multiple cats, and they do cause disorder.

Cat

 

[Catspaw56]

Non-sequiter. Although I can think for myself, I don't seem to be able to tighten radiator caps properly. Must be the lack of opposable thumbs.

Cat

 

[hobbit]

This is the thread about Punch and Judy isn't it?
Oh no it's not.
Oh yes it is.

Mr punch throws the baby out with the bath water.
Silly Mr Punch.

 

[Linda Brown]

What I see with Mikados response here is a person who wants to be the expert on Townsend Browns work.... and the only way that he can get there is to cripple the biographer and the mans daughter. Its a disgusting display of egomania.

And it won't work.

Linda

 

[Linda Brown]

Do I have an ulterior motive? Yep, I sure do. The work I have done and will continue to do I wish not to be torn down over allegations of truthfulness in the only biography written about Dr. Brown. It would become a distraction and the media is what runs this country[/B

]Let your "work" stand on its own two feet Mikado. Stop trying to create all the smoke and mirrors regarding Pauls work... Just do what you can do.... or not..... others can care for themselves, especially Paul (who seems not at all interested in ditching the information that he was given by Twigsnapper and "Morgan".) If he is unwilling to change his copy.... what is it to you? Your explanations are false.

The answer is obvious. You want him discredited, you want me discredited so you can become the shining light in this field. You are not going to see that happen Mikado. The world does not reward such as you.

Linda

 

[Linda Brown]

Ah, Perhaps things are better in the Bahamas!





"This is in no means meant as an attack on the writer of "Defying Gravity" but is meant to aid him if he ever so chooses to take up pen and paper to this story. Also, it is to show interested parties in the life of Dr Brown that there are those with an agenda who will fabricate information for their own and possibly nefarious needs. These anonymous individuals will be uncovered and they are being uncovered. They claim to respect Dr. Brown but instead are performing a disservice to not only the man and his life but to his family as well.And I couldn't have said it better myself Mikado

Paul knows that when he is ready to pick up his pen again I will be there to assist him. Linda

 

[Linda Brown]

Very odd to me that Walt Whitman would consider one of his literary efforts much the same that I look on my efforts.... the words that I have written... the book that is being fashioned now is very much to me the barq called the Resolute. Strange that we would think so similarly. Another one of those strange cosmic hahas!!!

? View topic - Messages from Linda

Linda Brown » Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:46 am

Thanks for that thought Littleenki...

And I happen to run across this.... which is appropriate I think ......for a certain rededication for the ship the Resolute.... when she prepares to sail again....

I dedicate this to the Resolute...and our book. a quote from Walt Whitman...........


"The sky oerreachers here, we feel the undulating deck beneath our feet,
We feel the long pulsation, ebb and flow of endless motion,
The tones of unseen mystery in the vague and vast suggestions of the briny world,
the liquid flowing sylables, the perfume, the faint creaking of the cordage, the
melancholy rhythm,
The boundless vista and the horizon far and dim are here, and this is oceans poem.

Then falter not Obook. Fulfill your destiny,
You are not a reminiscence of the land alone,
You too as a lone bark, cleaving the ether, purpos'd I know not
whiteher yet full of faith. Consort to every ship that sails, Sail you!
Bear forth to them folded my love ( dear mariners in here I fold in every leaf)

Speed on my book! Spread your white sails my little bark..".......................

 

[Linda Brown]

Remember folks..... 66 years since the mystery of Roswell. Do we REALLY know what happened then?

Linda

 

[Linda Brown]

"Hell, none of the others could care about even talking to you and that is not what I say, it is what they have said. I'll call them as character witnesses when you decide to go through and sue Kim.

Thats right Mikado. Haul my classmates from 1964 in as " character witnesses" when I sue Kim. I want to see that.

Linda

 

[Linda Brown]

"And now we see how you stir the pot to see what will precipitate a rebuttal from Mikado. Afterall, for someone who claims they have no association you sure do like to talk about me a good deal.

Mikado . you prefer to have conversations going only in your direction. Thats not going to work. I will mention your name whenever it suits me.

You do have an association with me. You ( actually Kim) own a forum site ( in my Dads name.... which you will not remove my name from its membership) That same site has generated and maintained messages that have seriously slandered my name and those of my family and close associates consistantly.

Kims message in red is a prime example and it has been posted here as well as on other Forums.

You continue to show your negative agenda toward me in your every nasty remark.

I am a big girl, not the spoiled little patent leather wearing girl that you keep picturing, and I will handle your transgressions toward me in my own way.

( I still find it interesting that picture is the one that seems to be lodged so consistantly in your brain. Is that the way that you prefer to see me? The little girl stomping her feet? REALLY? Perhaps you need to talk to your " mentor" about that image Mikado because it doesn't sound healthy for you.)

Linda

 

[Linda Brown]

Sometimes Mikado really pulls the absolute truth right out of the shadows. even when he is TRYING to turn it to his own uses. This is a recent quote directly from him here....

""This is in no means meant as an attack on the writer of "Defying Gravity" but is meant to aid him if he ever so chooses to take up pen and paper to this story. Also, it is to show interested parties in the life of Dr Brown that there are those with an agenda who will fabricate information for their own and possibly nefarious needs. These anonymous individuals will be uncovered and they are being uncovered. They claim to respect Dr. Brown but instead are performing a disservice to not only the man and his life but to his family as well."

Mikado.... you have no intent to " attack" Paul Schatzkin? You want to AID him if Paul should decide to
"take up his pen" again? And yet..... Paul has not asked you to do this, right? And apparently he does not feel inclined to " revisit" the subject of T. Townsend Brown again.... so why are you spending so much energy in this direction?

You SAY you have a research project that is based on Dads work. You SAY that you worry that negative things written about Dad will affect your work? Tell me why that would be Mikado? Your work should stand on its own but all I have seen from you here and on other Forums is a big attempt to discredit both Pauls efforts and mine. WHY is that?

You continue saying " Also, it is to show interested parties in the life of Dr Brown that there are those with an agenda who will fabricate information for their own and possibly nefarious needs. These anonymous individuals will be uncovered and they are being uncovered. They claim to respect Dr. Brown but instead are performing a disservice to not only the man and his life but to his family as well.

What you have said and done on these forums speaks exactly to the above statements.
You are doing a disservice to Dad and his family and you have meant to do this.... and you will be uncovered. Your own statements are very accurate.

Linda

 

[Linda Brown]

I meant to thank you all very much for the recent and enormous surge in our book sales for " The Good-Bye Man" which is currently on sale as an electronic book on smashwords.com

I am not sure what encouraged that spike but Jan and I do appreciate it, certainly.

The information that is offered in that first edition is going to be NOTHING compared to the information that will be folded into the REWRITE that I am working on now and so in a way I almost feel as if I should ask all of you to wait now for awhile. I want you to have the most up to date version.

On the other hand the " Good-Bye Man" that is available now is well worth the price that it is.( Just under five dollars... the price of some hamburgers! )..( the hardback will be more of course and I am not sure when it will be available) but the information in the first edition will take the action up to the point where Paul quit and walked away and I made the decision to go forward..... The first book itself basically lightly followed the arc of Pauls story with me as he was doing the research on my Dads life.... His biography on my Dad and my Memoir paints an much more personal view than has ever before been given.

Jan and I at some point in the future are going to pull it off the market.

The second book will go much further..... Pauls work is unedited and unfinished as far as I am concerned and there are many unanswered questions. The Good-Bye Man was also an incomplete work I believed... thats why I am spending so much time and energy pouring more information into it. I also have had a great amount of very postitive outside help.... which I didn't have during the first round of the Memoir.

This may be one of the reasons that Mikado is so strident about discrediting my words....He is truthfully afraid of what I might have to disclose.

Someone has said that this is an ongoing story and they are absolutely right. At some point the REWRITE will have to pick a stop point... information which flows in after that will have to wait for another book I guess....My suspicion is that might have to happen but of course.... one step at a time...

 

[Linda Brown]

You made no mistake, Linda did. All she had to do was not continually comment about me and I would have left her alone.

Now, as to Linda being the daughter of Thomas Townsend Brown, she is.

However, what happens after she meets with Zorgon if and when she does. Does that mean that the simple proof of her identity will all of a sudden be proof of all she has said? I think not. Identity should not weigh in on facts outside of identity.

Her identity is merely the first step. After that is when the real Due-Diligence will begin on what she claims to know.

Mikado

This is what I mean by Mikado bringing forth the truth while he TRIES to damage me. Is he going to try to say that this has not been his agenda? I want to see him try to say that.

I never EVER expected that simply proving who I was to doubters would do ANYTHING toward automatically proving out everything I have to say..... BUT..... its a start. One step at a time.

Why was it important for the Zorgon crew to attack my identity?
Why has it been important for Mikado to try to discredit my character. He has even brought the statements that he SAYS he has collected from old school classmates of mine which he SAYS were very negative toward me.... why does that seem important in his mind?

I encourage all of those who have ever met me... actually met me.... to step forward with anything negative that you have to say about me.

I have been no saint. I am human. But I am not the wrongdoer that Mikado has tried so hard to paint me.

And while he casts these stones in my direction I would think it only fair that he posts his name and his photo for all to see. Because if my classmates are encouraged to step forward I would certainly think it only fair that his should have an opportunity to say what they think of him.

Linda

 

[Linda Brown]

However, what happens after she meets with Zorgon ?"

Now there is a very good question Miikado. Ron Schmidt has disappeared from the conversation.

What would happen if we were to meet in Vegas?

There is a UFO conference in Vegas starting next Thursday and going through Sunday. I am considering being there.

I challenge Zorgon to meet me there.

Linda

 

[Linda Brown]

How can anyone take Zorgons efforts at his forums seriously if he is unwilling to stand behind his own words?

And the same thing goes for Mikado.

Linda