Linda Brown's "Rain On The Windows Papers" - A Continuation

Instruments????? and chanting monks????? Isn't that sort of an odd combination????
Then ad to that a boulder that lifts off the ground???? Linda
 
This is a message that I wrote earlier but then lost for some reason. Trying again

It might be easier for you to look at the videos on youtube on The Starseed Transmissions than reading the book.

Lee.... I am sort of restricted here because I can't get UTube.... part of it is that my computer is so old and I am on what they call dial up....the rest of the reason is that I am just not comfortable having that kind of full on visual information hitting me all at once...I know that soon I will have to step up to all of that but for now... I live in the desert because it is simple and uncomplicated and free of all of that input that Utubes represent. I know that I have missed alot of valuable information by not being able to just click and watch... but for a short time anyway this is just the way it has to be for me... I need that sort of ability to filter what comes in to me.... and meter it down just a little. If I could get away with it I would probably be a monk living in the mountains somewhere....<g>
As far as reading the book on Starseeds... I have a real aversion to doing that for some reason so my friend Jan ( also known on the Forums as " Rose") is undertaking that study. She is my editor also and she has a wonderful mind for research. I am hoping that she will uncover things about the Starseed Transmissions that I would have missed. For some reason I am content to just deal with the few pages that " Morgan" left behind for me.... he took the rest of the papers and now I am asking myself if the rest of the manuscript was meant for other people??? and he just left me the part that was meant for me??? But why then would I have been the caretaker of that material for so many years???
A total puzzlement to me.

If I have posted this somewhere else I am sorry for the duplication. It just disappeared here .... and I found this copy in the notebook .... so I am reposting.... sorry if its twice. Strange that the mention of "monk" would come up again.

Reminds me of a vision I had a long time ago.... which refered to a man named Tolstoy. Another time, another thread... but Monks and a gold watch had alot to do with that too.... Linda
 
Dad and I had a meeting in 1965 with a man who was introduced to me as Iilya Tolstoy. Grandson of the famous Russian writer. Dad, "Morgan" and I had driven up to St. Augustine from Homestead Florida. I didn't realize it at the time but its obvious to me at the time that Dad had set up the meeting with Tolstoy so that he could meet Morgan. I also didn't realize at the time that Dads " organization" was " vetting" this young man as a possible new member. Oh I knew that they were interested in him but at the time I hadn't put Col. Tolstoy in the loop that I called " Nassau" at the time.....

I am just mentioning this because soon I am going to post the vision that I had much later about who I am sure was Tolstoy.....thoughts of monks and gold watches... chanting monks now???? with instruments???? all of this is blending together.... asking to be looked at again....

And there was the vision of the gold coin... worn on gold chain... the image of an ancient ship with three porpoise bounding in front of it.... all part of the same vision. This is probably the only place that I could talk about that.

For now... just consider this a place marker. I will get back soon.... Linda
 
And yes.... the Rain on the Windows Papers.... Starseed Transmissions.....Fat steaming pack ponies on a Tibetan pass... with two men traveling together... one of them wearing the gold coin I just mentioned... I could hear another voice say.... Put that away before someone sees it... and the vision of a heavy cloth glove obscuring the coin from my view. I could smell the dampness of sweating ponies... even in the cold with snow all around and thats how I knew that this vision was important. When I can smell things that go along with the vision... I am in another place and another time. There are two men on a high pass trail.... I see yellow and red silk wrapped around a box.... with a gold watch....

Strangely my view shifts suddenly to the Mayflower Hotel in Washington and a potted Palm tree....a man has come from his room upstairs for a meeting in a breakfast area of the hotel. He is meeting someone sitting by the window.... the sunlight is streaming into the room but for some reason I can't get past that danged palm tree. It is sitting in one of those enormous blue and white chinese " Jardineres"... and I haven't been able to get past it yet. Earlier the man was writing on a tablet near his phone... He is nervous about the meeting.... but a feminine form ( not sure she is actually there or just in his mind.... but very strong with him.... she touches him on the shoulder... sort of brushing it the way a mother would set things fair with a young man... or a very protective gesture by a loving wife. Oh Stuffy she says....Everything will be alright.

This vision was something that I had years ago. I still can't get past the danged potted palm tree in that hall way. But that has something to do with that pass in Tibet... and those two men. Since then I have deduced that one of those men was Ilya Tolstoy.

Getting back... on this side of the fence.... but information from that side is just as valuable. Linda
 
Those keeping up with these threads might remember Zorgons strange claims that I could not prove that I was Linda Brown, daughter of T. Townsend Brown... then his daughter added to that strange thought and finally Pimander... the English contingent of Zorgons crew... showed up with his own strange slant.... which... I am almost embarrassed to say.... I tried to comply with... in fact above and beyond the call actually.... and then something strange happened. He started talking about mind control and my papers being " channeled".... and he mentioned an interest in Elizabeth Rauscher ( who you all might remember is a very talented lady who was quoted that she could change the mood of an entire town without their knowledge of it... if she just had enough money to fund her project....

I thought that it was rather odd that Pimander.... with his background in cellular science... would develop those kinds of connections. I also thought it odd that he was so bound and determined to prove that he was actually talking to ME. It was almost part of the requirement before he could share what he was into.

And now that I believe I have done that.... nothing more has been heard from the Zorgon camp and Pimander has taken the little that he gleaned from me and has disappeared with a wave of his hand... saying that he will be back when he has more to report.

Which leaves me wondering what the heck was actually happening here.

i THINK THAT HE BELIEVES the " Rain on the Windows Papers" are some sort of proof or link to a mind control project involving Rauscher and some of the people around her.... that if he could just get into that he could make some connections.

I only know a couple of things. I only have a small percentage of those papers which " Morgan" left me.... the rest I have had here with me, in my family archives. I first saw them in 1963 but I believe that they are much older than that. MOST of the pages that were taken away... were very upsetting to me when I first read them. Can't describe it more than that. But I had a very strong aversion to them. What does that mean? I don't know!

Maybe I picked up on the vibration that this was a sinister thing in operation? Maybe Pimander is onto something important here?

I don't know what the Rain on the Windows papers are going to ultimately tell us... I just know that there are some threads coming loose on what has been through the years a very tightly wrapped project. Linda
 

Because you have demanded answers from me and I have responded. You never respond to my questions.


Who really cares if the papers were scanned by someone to perform research on. Scan them and present them for discussion, or in other words, you can't put your money where your mouth is and you wish others to discuss papers that only you have seen and can verify. You want discussions on these papers but no one is allowed to see them.

Do you see the problem? You have taken a book, "The Starseed Transmissions" and have incorporated them into your Father's story. How do you know it wasn't a manuscript that was given to him to peruse? You don't. How do you know that Beau Kitselman didn't give it to your Father which he received from someone else? You don't. You were given a good deal of ideas to test the validity for "due-diligence" from those in the group, did you ever do any of it? I would bet not.

Now, on another note, I asked a question a while ago and have been waiting to hear your answer. So I will repeat...

Do you see the lesson I taught you recently?

Mikado
 

And there in lies the rub on the meat. "(you) only have a small percentage of those papers which "Morgan" left me..."

Scan and present the papers that you have for perusal for discussion, otherwise, it is mere supposition as to what you have.

Everyone has mentioned Ken Carey but how about this:

www.jacurutu3.com: The Starseed Transmissions


Or how about Robert Anton Wilson who was a friend of Leary's and his series where he incorporated Leary's concepts?

I don't doubt there is substance to the topic but what I doubt is the pedigree of the papers you claim to have. Scan them..post them...and be sure to post the one page that has a "1/2" on it. That would be a good first step for discussion.

Mikado
 

I believe it has worked out quite well. Truth survives.




Oh how dramatic. Yes Linda...Really!. Your Father was discharged for homosexuality. There was not one person alive who could give Paul an interview. There was not one person he could find, or someone Elizabeth Helen Drake could find, from any university that knew your Father other than the woman at Dennison who said "he made things up"...hmmm, sounds like the apple falling from the tree syndrome. The only sources that came to Paul were two...count them...two...anonymous individuals that had so much love of the man that they didn't have the guts to come forward. Even "deep throat" met Woodward and Bernstein. Gutless seems to run deep in your circles.


You were present when Pladuim handed the money to Traveler. At any time you could have told him to refuse to accept it. You didn't. I am sure others will understand that you reeeeeaaaalllllly didn't want to take it...but you did. He was never working for me. So what does it tell people? That you took the money and everything you are saying is twisted truths...now what do they call twisted truths?



I never said that "Morgan" convinced Traveler to "ship out". I said it was YOU presenting Dave as Morgan that really raised his concerns. In other words, he was convinced by the actions of Dave that he couldn't have been the person described as "Morgan" that you were attempting to pass him off as. As to the alien thingy, again, I heard it from Traveler and you are again misrepresenting what happened. Further, I doubt he will show up anywhere that you are...or I for that matter. He has indicated that he wants to stay away from the "drama"...sound familiar? Like someone else?

Secondly, I have noticed you have used Traveler's first name. You really don't give a crap about anyone's identity, do you. You are so narcissistic.

Mikado
 
I see you have been busy with other comments. This is my response on the first

Because you have demanded answers from me and I have responded. You never respond to my questions.

Thats because Mikado I have a hard time differentiating between your questions and your insults. Why should I answer insults?.
I don't doubt there is substance to the topic but what I doubt is the pedigree of the papers you claim to have. Scan them..post them...and be sure to post the one page that has a "1/2" on it. That would be a good first step for discussion.

WHY DON'T YOU DOUBT THAT THERE IS SUBSTANCE TO THE TOPIC????

I find it VERY interesting indeed that you would mention the One Page that has 1/2 on it "Scan them..post them...and be sure to post the one page that has a "1/2" on it. That would be a good first step for discussion.

You say"
And there in lies the rub on the meat. "(you) only have a small percentage of those papers which "Morgan" left me..."
Scan and present the papers that you have for perusal for discussion, otherwise, it is mere supposition as to what you have.

I submit that if you are so interested in the papers that you can study them yourself. You have made it abundently evident that you do not feel that I have anything valid to lend to this discussion so lets just leave it at that. YOU study the Starseed transmissions all you want.... and I will follow the lead I am on.

I am not interested in dealing with you Mikado. Speak to others. You and the team you represent need to do your own work. And you might think about being quick because I think that Pimander might just have a headstart on you.

As far as what "Morgan" gave me.... You have already said that he doesn't exist (so he must not have actually left me anything). Isn't that just about what you said? However I got them and whatever their history is...... Those papers are mine until I am finished studying them.... others can have them afterwards.

Seems to me that you have more than a passing interest in those same papers Mikado even to have a knowledge of that particular page..... And I also find it interesting that you have chosen that particular page for a good " first step for discussion"..

I have a feeling that a study into the Star Seed transmissions will lead to some extremely surprising sources. Sources that I believe Pimander has already drawn a bead on.... and so why suddenly are you so interested Mikado?

What I uncover I will release at a later date. At the moment I am not interested in sharing any additional information.

Linda

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<name removed by user request> Mikado....Sometimes I use first names, just as you have....

and as far as the Navy and my Dads records... you have posted a fallacy here and I demand that you retract it. There is NOTHING in my Dads Navy records that speaks to him being discharged for homosexuality. You have stated a falsehood here and I demand that it be removed.

You tread on very thin ice Mikado. Linda
 

Chapter 43 - For the Good of the Navy.

If you have a problem with the manner in which your Father was resigned from the Navy then you should take it up with the Navy or with the writer of "Defying Gravity". Secondly, there are at least 6 hits when searched on the "ttbrown" forum in regard to this fact.

Thin ice? Is that a threat being made? Couldn't be threat from you. Remember the threat to Kim about destroying data that was for Trickfox? Remember how you told her that if she did there were those that would ....take care of her? Well, what was that? Guess what....the papers were shredded, didn't want them laying around so where is Carlos? or would that be Chuck?.....lmao

And I demand you tell me where you have made statements about my responsibilities and other things. I also demand to have you answer my question as to if you learned a lesson from a little over a week ago or do I need to explain it?

As to demanding a retraction, I should be demanding one from you for all the lies you have told...but Jesus loves the little children and I will be there to rebut, someone has to watch over the child.

Mikado
 
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Everyone. Please READ Paul Schatzkins Chapter 43..." For the Good of the Navy". It is one of his most outstanding chapters.... well written and exhaustively researched.

I believe you can find a copy here ttbrown.com

Mikado would like you to dismiss it as fluff that needs his " due diligence" but nothing could be further from the truth. Chapter 46 asks some EXCEPTIONALLY interesting questions....

I will respond further at a later date but you would do yourselves a favor by reading that chapter.... One of the questions asked in it was pertinent...." Had he sacrificed his own rank and prestige in order to block progress on a most horrid application of the technology?"And I believe he answers that question well. And that question is being further explored now...

I doubt that Mikado is even familiar with what that Chapter 43 actually says. And he certainly doesn't want you to actually read it. Linda
 
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No Mikado... they were not shredded. They were burned. I knew about it about five minutes after your girlfriend lit a match to them . But all it managed to do was to prove to others that you would actually set her up to do that ... The papers were meaningless actually. The person who did the actual Kitselman Math was not available to you at the time.... Others just wanted to see how you would treat what was given to you as important material. You have shown your character here and thats what it was all about in the first place.

You did not meet up to the expectations some had for you. Their problem..which they will correct.. you are still just being you.... but at least you are showing your true nature now. Linda
 
"the papers were shredded, didn't want them laying around so where is Carlos? or would that be Chuck?.....lmao
I don't know where he is. I am not accountable for his actions.

Secondly, there are at least 6 hits when searched on the "ttbrown" forum in regard to this fact.

WHAT FACT???

Now its your turn to be specific Mikado. You pride yourself so much in that. Now is the time for you to practice it. Linda
 
"And I demand you tell me where you have made statements about my responsibilities and other things. I also demand to have you answer my question as to if you learned a lesson from a little over a week ago or do I need to explain it?

Draft a statement that makes sense Mikado and I will try to answer it.

Linda
 
As to demanding a retraction, I should be demanding one from you for all the lies you have told...but Jesus loves the little children and I will be there to rebut, someone has to watch over the child.

Now THERE is an interesting statement that I am not even going to TRY to figure.

Linda
 

Amazon.com: Customer Reviews: Defying Gravity: The Parallel Universe of T. Townsend Brown

Hobbit
 
" as far as " official Navy records go there is only the final Navy fitness report dated October 5, 1942 as mandated in the aforementioned mailgram confirming LT Browns detachement from the navy. The final fitness report is almost completely blank. Instead of the usual details the page is struck through with a single pen stroke above which is hand written " see remarks" And on the second page in the " remarks" section that in previous reports had displayed so many glowing assesments of Lt Browns character and service, Captain Hincamp wrote..." In view of the circumstances under which this officer was detached I desire to make no comment."

Despite all of the allegations and the history of misnformation that statement is the ONLY truly indisputable public record that exists to explain how and why Lt. Browns career with the Navy that he loved so dearly ended so apruptly in the fall of 1942.

So, readers take note: That rustling sound that you hear is the sound of a curtain drawing closed and the apparition you see behind the curtain is the vanishing figure of Thomas Townsend Brown."

The above is taken from Chapter 43 of The Parallel Universe of T. Townsend Brown by Paul Schatzkin.

Thats what Paul had to say. maybe it would have been wise of him to stop his biography right there? And leave the balance of Dads life for later when more information had bubbled to the surface.... perhaps that time is fast approaching. Linda
 
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