Linda Brown's "Rain On The Windows Papers" - A Continuation

[Linda Brown]

TED GUNDERSON AND MICHAEL RICONOCIUTO AND THE

Not my favorite subject but since we are talking conspiracy here folks, we might as well jump in with both feet.

Hang on to your foxy shorts Raymond. <g> Linda

 

[Linda Brown]

Point is.... whoever is behind this kind of crap..... would much prefer that I be kept busy trying to prove that I am Townsend Browns daughter. Not saying that folks like Zorgon and Pimander and even Exterminator actually KNOW WHY they attack me or discount me the way that they do so emotionally. My point is that maybe they are obeying " instructions" that they are not even concious of?

Its worth considering. Linda

 

[Linda Brown]

And then of course there are Mikados attacks... even on the ttbrown forum when another engineer was looking for more information.

http://www.ttbrown.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=16598&sid=1d05d627291f4b2fa6ad8dbb08ef8a9e#p16598

"htmagic on Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:26 pm

Mikado14 wrote:
htmagic wrote:
We know barium titanate (BaTiO3) is a dielectric. A subset of dielectrics are electrets which carry a charge. I suspect barium titanate is an electret. And if that is true, electrons are emitted. If an electron moves one way, it can ionize an atom and turn it into an ion (in air) that moves as well. So it doesn't really eject ions but electrons and the ions move secondarily.

Bottom line, you don't know, you "suspect".


Mikado, I said suspect because I haven't done the tests to determine it. As a Chemical Engineer, I can tell you that like compounds have like properties. Andrew our geologist can confirm this. For instance, barium titanate is made from titanium dioxide. I know titanium dioxide has photocatalytic properties. From this I reason so must barium titanate, although I haven't performed the test to confirm this. So what is it that causes you to comment on me suspecting something and tossing it out into the group for discussion? Because I can believe we can learn something from everybody. And I am far from the expert no did I profess to be. Since you know it is ceramic, why didn't you tell us more of what you know about it? Did you realize it has piezoelectric properties? And piezoelectric transducers were reported to be able to have antigravity type properties. http://esapub.esrin.esa.it/pff/pffv6n3/stiv6n3.htm[/b]


Mikado14 wrote:
htmagic wrote:
Also, I know titanium dioxide is photo-catalytic and I suspect so would be BaTiO3. If a photon hits the surface and releases an electron, it could energize the surface. Typically this would happen in the ultraviolet (UV) range but I'm not sure if it is long or short wave UV. The more energetic the UV, I would suspect more electrons and activity. Add the high voltage from an electrokinetic generator and I suspect this would really enhance the effect.

Another "suspect".


Mikado, why do you have a problem with this? Do you have something to tell us?


Mikado14 wrote:
htmagic wrote:
By the way, using barium titanate in a vacuum would still move the craft as there would be a stream of electrons moving from the charged surface. And if these BaTiO3 materials were shaped like a teardrop or pointed electrodes were used and the barium titanate material vaporized at the point of the high voltage corona, it would eject an ion stream that could propel the craft. So that is a second theory that I proposed for ions from a ceramic material. Do you have any theories or speculations, Mikado?

And when the teardrop is gone the pilot drops tears.


And hopefully there will be an ejection seat to use at that time to prevent the tears or tears.


Mikado14 wrote:
I do hope you have a mouse in your pocket.


And what does that mean?


Mikado14 wrote:
Barium Titanate is what you know of, what about the materials you do not know about? You make short conclusive statements and then it requires posts to clarify. A bit of advice, and you don't have to listen to a damn thing I say, make a definitive statement, give a definitive answer if "allowed", not hypothesis or what you suspect for your original statement is suspect and smiley faces do not hide sarcasm.

Mikado

Mikado,

Now if I have offended you please forgive me as I did not mean to. As to what I know or not know it is not for you to judge. I for one, did not know hypotheses were not allowed on this forum! I'm glad you clarified the rules as Enforcer!

Since musing were permitted before, call them musings of a hobbitt or Bilbo Baggins or some such sort...

Peace,

MagicBill
************************************************************************


Do you begin to see the whiffs of a conspiracy at work here?????

 

[Linda Brown]

Notice that the above correspondence between Mikado and this engineer happened in 2008. In 2009... after a meeting with Mikado the writer and the owner of this particular Forum closed it down suddenly. he took a manuscript that he had been working on for six years and called it a " bag full of empty shells" and then when forced to so something to satisfy our contract he published this manuscript without one page of edit or proof reading work. He has walked away and very rarely has even mentioned T. Townsend Brown or his work since.

Mikado was right there.

Mikado set up the ttownsendbrown.com Forum and website..... and all you need to do is visit to see the result of that......Kimm is the owner of that site.

And now he and Kim have set themselves up here.... for what purpose? That will be interesting to see.

Linda

 

[Linda Brown]

And constantly they both question ME?

Oddly the Rain on the Windows Papers told me about this.... told me about people gathering around to help with this effort... so I have some comfort in those words because they show me the future.

And Dads words again were

" Daughter, These words are as true as the rain on the window above your head"

Linda

 

[Linda Brown]

This was a message from Mr. Twigsnapper which might for some strange reason fit in here too. Note the date.... 2008 I think

Welcome to the Parallel Universe • View topic - WIRED on "The AntiGravity Underground"

by twigsnapper on Sun Jul 20, 2008 12:22 pm

Nate,

Back to "bubbles coming to the surface", If you see that happening then surely the idea of something solid being down there, generating the bubbles, can't seem that far out.

Now that Paul has his book sort of rounded up I imagine these discussions will not throw him for a loop. Perhaps you have read enough of the threads to note where Elizabeth at one time brought some information up to the forum and I actually asked her to back away from it. Some of the things that you have lightly touched on now might have popped to the surface then. I think that we both then considered some information a " bottomless swamp" and it was wiser to avoid.

Noting how you and your companions here have developed a rather sharp sense for this trail I am beginning to think that this might be the time for a few more bubbles. Controlled release of information? Perhaps.

Linda, you might tell the forum someday how your Dad managed to swim so far underwater and the method that he used. Same situation here.

Paul, you are welcomed to join in if you wish in these discussions or you can ignor this discussion. It can all be relegated to an area of the forum you might all call.... lets see.... whats a good name for this? ...... maybe.... another look at the swamp?

In any case, most of this information deals with situations after Dr. Browns death so you are basically off the hook here Paul, if you want to be. You don't have to really look at this information if you don't want to. This as we all know is a continuing saga and probably will get harder and harder to prove out. Your choice Paul. Its alot of work.

First couple of bubbles, Drawn from another thread. There are direct connections between the "electrohydrodynamic pineapple bomb", a genius named "Mike", his partner... more than a genius ... named "Lavas", The Cabazon Indians, the NRO, The CIA , oh lets see a whole slew of situations that have been hinted about but never actually brought to the surface and yes.... it is slowly becoming time. twigsnapper

 

[Lady of Light]

Linda, I'm drawing a blank today, maybe I'll have something better tomorrow, and the title can always be changed if something better comes along, but these are the only 2 things that have come across:


"The mysterious events surrounding ttb and family"

"What really happened with TTB?"

You know more about what you want to talk about, so take from that, do your own thing. Like I said, the title can always be changed later on. I'm gonna sleep on it tonight and see if anything else pops up.

 

[Linda Brown]

Thank you for your efforts LOL. I think perhaps for a few days we are all meant to go just a little quiet. Things around here ( Hobbit knows) were ringing off the charts for a solid two weeks but now.... quiet. I think maybe I am alright with following that for a moment and maybe even using the opportunity to rest.

The thing that does come to me is that everyone is too set on getting ANSWERS.... when in fact the most important thing for all of us to learn to do .... is learn how to ask the proper questions. And you can't do that without really looking hard at what happened in Dads life and how other people and events interacted with him. Then the questions will be based on a different level and we might just find the answers that will really mean something in the future.

Twigsnapper mentioned in that last old message from Pauls Forum.... how Dad use to be able to swim so far underwater..... he would equalize the pressure as he went by letting just a little bit of his breath out at a time.... a bubble here... a bubble there. Thats what gave him the ability to go further. Try it some time. It makes an amazing difference.

And that is what is happening here I believe.... a bubble at a time. We just have to understand that as Mr. Twigsnapper pointed out.... there is something BIG down there feeding us information.... and we need to pay attention.... because if a bubble reaches the surface without being noted.... it is simply lost to the atmosphere.

So Asking the proper questions. Thats what I encourage all of you to do. And of course, that means doing our homework carefully and not letting anyone deflect your path. Linda

 

[Lady of Light]

Well, when it's the right time and it's ready to be had, it will be available. I leave that in your hands as it is your information. In the meantime, if anything else swarms in, as usual, i will relay.

 

[Mikado]

And then of course there are Mikados attacks... even on the ttbrown forum when another engineer was looking for more information.

Welcome to the Parallel Universe • View topic - WIRED on "The AntiGravity Underground"

"htmagic on Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:26 pm

Mikado14 wrote:
htmagic wrote:
We know barium titanate (BaTiO3) is a dielectric. A subset of dielectrics are electrets which carry a charge. I suspect barium titanate is an electret. And if that is true, electrons are emitted. If an electron moves one way, it can ionize an atom and turn it into an ion (in air) that moves as well. So it doesn't really eject ions but electrons and the ions move secondarily.

Bottom line, you don't know, you "suspect".


Mikado, I said suspect because I haven't done the tests to determine it. As a Chemical Engineer, I can tell you that like compounds have like properties. Andrew our geologist can confirm this. For instance, barium titanate is made from titanium dioxide. I know titanium dioxide has photocatalytic properties. From this I reason so must barium titanate, although I haven't performed the test to confirm this. So what is it that causes you to comment on me suspecting something and tossing it out into the group for discussion? Because I can believe we can learn something from everybody. And I am far from the expert no did I profess to be. Since you know it is ceramic, why didn't you tell us more of what you know about it? Did you realize it has piezoelectric properties? And piezoelectric transducers were reported to be able to have antigravity type properties. http://esapub.esrin.esa.it/pff/pffv6n3/stiv6n3.htm[/b]


Mikado14 wrote:
htmagic wrote:
Also, I know titanium dioxide is photo-catalytic and I suspect so would be BaTiO3. If a photon hits the surface and releases an electron, it could energize the surface. Typically this would happen in the ultraviolet (UV) range but I'm not sure if it is long or short wave UV. The more energetic the UV, I would suspect more electrons and activity. Add the high voltage from an electrokinetic generator and I suspect this would really enhance the effect.

Another "suspect".


Mikado, why do you have a problem with this? Do you have something to tell us?


Mikado14 wrote:
htmagic wrote:
By the way, using barium titanate in a vacuum would still move the craft as there would be a stream of electrons moving from the charged surface. And if these BaTiO3 materials were shaped like a teardrop or pointed electrodes were used and the barium titanate material vaporized at the point of the high voltage corona, it would eject an ion stream that could propel the craft. So that is a second theory that I proposed for ions from a ceramic material. Do you have any theories or speculations, Mikado?

And when the teardrop is gone the pilot drops tears.


And hopefully there will be an ejection seat to use at that time to prevent the tears or tears.


Mikado14 wrote:
I do hope you have a mouse in your pocket.


And what does that mean?


Mikado14 wrote:
Barium Titanate is what you know of, what about the materials you do not know about? You make short conclusive statements and then it requires posts to clarify. A bit of advice, and you don't have to listen to a damn thing I say, make a definitive statement, give a definitive answer if "allowed", not hypothesis or what you suspect for your original statement is suspect and smiley faces do not hide sarcasm.

Mikado

Mikado,

Now if I have offended you please forgive me as I did not mean to. As to what I know or not know it is not for you to judge. I for one, did not know hypotheses were not allowed on this forum! I'm glad you clarified the rules as Enforcer!

Since musing were permitted before, call them musings of a hobbitt or Bilbo Baggins or some such sort...

Peace,

MagicBill
************************************************************************


Do you begin to see the whiffs of a conspiracy at work here?????

What is what I said and what is what magicbill said? Do you think you could have a bit more respect for those reading your post so that they can distinguish who said what? Otherwise, you substantiate everything I say, create confusion so as to misrepresent the facts.

Mikado

 

[Mikado]

This was a message from Mr. Twigsnapper which might for some strange reason fit in here too. Note the date.... 2008 I think

Welcome to the Parallel Universe • View topic - WIRED on "The AntiGravity Underground"

by twigsnapper on Sun Jul 20, 2008 12:22 pm

Nate,

Back to "bubbles coming to the surface", If you see that happening then surely the idea of something solid being down there, generating the bubbles, can't seem that far out.

Now that Paul has his book sort of rounded up I imagine these discussions will not throw him for a loop. Perhaps you have read enough of the threads to note where Elizabeth at one time brought some information up to the forum and I actually asked her to back away from it. Some of the things that you have lightly touched on now might have popped to the surface then. I think that we both then considered some information a " bottomless swamp" and it was wiser to avoid.

Noting how you and your companions here have developed a rather sharp sense for this trail I am beginning to think that this might be the time for a few more bubbles. Controlled release of information? Perhaps.

Linda, you might tell the forum someday how your Dad managed to swim so far underwater and the method that he used. Same situation here.

Paul, you are welcomed to join in if you wish in these discussions or you can ignor this discussion. It can all be relegated to an area of the forum you might all call.... lets see.... whats a good name for this? ...... maybe.... another look at the swamp?

In any case, most of this information deals with situations after Dr. Browns death so you are basically off the hook here Paul, if you want to be. You don't have to really look at this information if you don't want to. This as we all know is a continuing saga and probably will get harder and harder to prove out. Your choice Paul. Its alot of work.

First couple of bubbles, Drawn from another thread. There are direct connections between the "electrohydrodynamic pineapple bomb", a genius named "Mike", his partner... more than a genius ... named "Lavas", The Cabazon Indians, the NRO, The CIA , oh lets see a whole slew of situations that have been hinted about but never actually brought to the surface and yes.... it is slowly becoming time. twigsnapper

Yes twigsnapper I see. <chuckle> Not instigating mind you but I find it funny that you would use a post from someone whose IP was traced to Yucca Valley.

Mikado

 

[Mikado]

Notice that the above correspondence between Mikado and this engineer happened in 2008. In 2009... after a meeting with Mikado the writer and the owner of this particular Forum closed it down suddenly. he took a manuscript that he had been working on for six years and called it a " bag full of empty shells" and then when forced to so something to satisfy our contract he published this manuscript without one page of edit or proof reading work. He has walked away and very rarely has even mentioned T. Townsend Brown or his work since.

Mikado was right there.

Yes, I was there at twigsnapper's behest...er .... your behest. Paul quit because there was no one, not one person willing to come forward, public or private, to discuss Dr. Brown. Why was he requesting this? Because in May of that same year is when he started checking after James Barrett disappeared. The IP's went to you. Empty shells Linda..all those individuals ....just empty shells.

One more thing, you can't even get the year correct as to the meeting and you want others to believe you in regard to information from years ago? For instance, the "Rain on the Window Papers" or would that be copies of the "Starseed Transmissions"?

The meeting was on December 13, 2008.

Mikado set up the ttownsendbrown.com Forum and website..... and all you need to do is visit to see the result of that......Kimm is the owner of that site.

And now he and Kim have set themselves up here.... for what purpose? That will be interesting to see.

Linda

Kim was set up as the owner to keep you and everyone else isolated. Now you are attempting to do as you always do, twist the truth. Transfer of ownership would have occurred when the domain expired.

And remember, at the meeting you had in Vegas of March of 2011, you took my money to pay for the site.

How quick you forget.

Mikado

 

[Linda Brown]

I don't forget much. Its just nice to see Mikado volunteering so much information.

"Kim was set up as the owner to keep you and everyone else isolated. Now you are attempting to do as you always do, twist the truth. Transfer of ownership would have occurred when the domain expired.

How did that work out for Mikado, I wonder. Linda

 

[Linda Brown]

"Paul quit because there was no one, not one person willing to come forward, public or private, to discuss Dr. BrownReally.... not the Navy? Not the Universities, not personal friends that he interviewed. Mikado is trying to tell you that Paul had no other sources. Are you going to believe him? Linda

 

[Linda Brown]

And remember, at the meeting you had in Vegas of March of 2011, you took my money to pay for the site.

How quick you forget.


Mikado forgets that Jim was the one who took the money. Let him describe what actually happened there. Mikado was not there. Turns out that Jim was working more directly for Mikado and admitted it later. He took the money.... but he was working in behalf of Mikado. So what does that tell people?

And I don't forget treachery. Mikado wishes that I would. Linda

 

[Linda Brown]

They can figure it out Mikado.

Do you think that it was " Morgan" who convinced Jim to " ship out". I doubt. We had a lovely visit...I think it was the Alien outside the window who pointed at Jims wife that freaked her out. Ask her about that someday.... it made an impression on her.

Jim. You are welcome here anytime. On the Cosmic Token too.....And you don't really have to answer to Mikado. Linda

 

[Linda Brown]

Regarding he Starseed Transmissions. Yes. A mystery. How could I have seen something that predates those transmissions.? Jan has looked it up and compared the pages. They are nearly identical. How do I explain that? I can't. I know that I found them and read them in 1963.... at least some of the pages. I didn't like them very much. I mentioned them though in the journal I was keeping..... dated November 1963... in a hard backed book... just as Dad said I should have. In fact he bought the first five for me...

People can believe me or they can discount me as Mikado is trying so very hard to get them to do. But ask yourself this.... why is this so important to him? What is his stake in this? I have my families name to uphold.... that gives me a right to quite a bit of passion in this direction. What is Mikado bringing to the table here.

Its a question I don't much care about seeing the answer to.... but its an interesting one to ask.

Funny how he constantly blames people for things.... even after he says that they don't exist. I am wondering if he will ever see the humor in that? I do! Linda

 

[Linda Brown]

Mikado stated "The meeting was on December 13, 2008.

I am assuming that he is talking about the meeting in Pa..... where he met Paul.....

All I really remember is the date of January 9th.... when Paul quit and walked away. ( after six years of constant work and a 600 page completed but not edited manuscript)

How many weeks did it take?

Linda

 

[Catspaw56]

I would like to know how many people received the message contained in the Starseed Tranmissions, who never mentioned it.

An alien looking inthe window? Had that experience. Didn't like it. When we bought the house, one of the first changes in decor was opaque film on the small windows by the front door. I was terrified that aliens would be looking in at me.

Cat

 

[Linda Brown]

She was totally spooked by that " Alien" . Strange that you would have the same experience.

Never have seen it myself. Not yet anyway.

What I think is so strange about the Starseed transmission is that they seem to have been "transmitted" in waves. So do I have a copy of one of the very first " transmissions?".... Or... Did I have the original copy from which the rest were transmitted. Its almost beyond my capabilities to consider what that might mean. Linda