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THE END OF THE WORLD, IS IT 2011 ? 2012 ?


Has the greatest discovery of the last thirteen centuries
related to The Mayan Day - Record keeping just been discovered ???

It appears Dr. Calleman, is holding fast, to 28 OCT 2011,
while John Major Jenkins, says 21 DEC 2012, is the right date.
Even, The Mayan Elders, do NOT know.

Susan Lynne Serafina Schwenger, an internationally known Cosmologist,
Radio Talk Show Host, and, Student of Metaphysics, Doctoral Candidate, ABD,
a native of Canada, says that the world is NOT ending in 2011 or 2012,
and, she has discovered what even the worlds leading experts,
have NOT been able to determine.
She has both the science, and, the maths, to back up her discovery
of 16 DEC 2013, as The End Time, and, 17 DEC 2013, as The Start Time,
for what she claims, is The 13th Grand Cycle on Earth.

To further prove her theory, she also, has,
utilized the cycles of The New Moon, and, The Full Moon,
in her equations,
and, has managed to determine not only,
The Start Dates of all The Grand Cycles,
The 14th Grand Cycle on Earth, which starts 12/17/28013
The 15th Grand Cycle on Earth, which starts 12/17/54013
The 16th Grand Cycle on Earth, which starts 12/17/80013
The 17th Grand Cycle on Earth, which starts 12/17/106013
and, claims, she can extend it, even further.

There has been a lot of BUZZ in the air, about 2011, and, 2012.

Alot of amazing men, Dr. Calleman, John Major Jenkins, and, Dr. Arguelles,
have tried to solve the puzzle, and, have dedicated a large portion of their life trying to do so.

Susan says, "The Mayan, are the world experts, at Day & Record Keeping,
and, that they have always operated on an assortment of calendars,
utilizing three different dating systems in parallel.
First, there is The Long Count, or Calendar Round,
Second, there is The Tzolkin aka The Divine Calendar,
and, Thirdly, there is The HAAB aka The Civil Calendar,
each are utilized for an assortment of different reasons,
many of which, are sacred.

Everyone, including the world's experts,
the researchers, along with the scholars, can agree on
The Start-Date, however, no one can agree, on The End-Time."

It, is quite amazing, in a computer age, that, no one has been able to calculate it !

It, has been like looking for the proverbial "needle" in "the haystack".

When, she first started to try to tie the three calendars together,
and, to calibrate them to The Civil Time of The Mayan, and, then align it,
with the time, set in place, by Pope Gregory, and, The Catholic Church,
related to The Gregorian Calendar, what is commonly today known as World Time,
many people told her, it would be impossible.

Susan loves a challenge, and, as a child, could put together a puzzle in record time.

Like many people on earth, many of her own clients, where asking the 2011, and, 2012 questions.

A lot of people, just did NOT want to know about it, or, talk about it.

Lets face it, if the world is ending, maybe, it would best, NOT to know.

There is NO doubt, it is in the media, and, in the local newspapers,
people writing in to editors, claiming their kids have come home from school,
asking them if the world really is ending, while some people are making very serious preparations,
related to the possibility that the world may end.
There is NO doubt, people are confused, and, some of them, are downright scared.
Children sometimes ask, their parents the darnest questions, and, this question,
is likely keeping a lot of parents, up at night, almost everyone wants an answer.

Rest assured, these 2011, and, 2012 dates, are NOT related to doom and gloom.

Throughout history, great men, and, great women, have explored many things,
and, there is NO doubt, when Susan was asked,
what prompted her, to get involved in solving the mystery ?
She said, "This puzzle, has done more, than just stir up my curiosity,
in fact, i always felt,
that, i was a big part of this culture,
in other times, and, as, a child, i loved to put together,
and, to solve puzzles, and, this was something, that had a very
challenging nature to it, as, this was something, i could study,
and, likely never know, all the answers to,
so it intrigued me. I was always very curious, as to why,
The Mayan Elders, along with The Mayan Day - Record Keepers, did NOT know the answer ???
And, if they did, why were they NOT telling people ???
I had to know the answers, and, it mystified me, why the experts, could NOT find, an answer !!!
It seemed, that back around 1200 BCE, something occurred, and, they lost most of their information,
and,those that knew, the age-old answers, simply disappeared.
It was a mystery worthy of spending some time to solve.
As someone, who has traveled a great deal of this world,
a chance crossing in 1999, with Ian Xel Lungold, in Cancun, Mexico,
while he was in full gear, researching the names and, meanings of all the glyphs,
and, he was getting ready, to help write a book, with Dr. Calleman,
his excitement, was rather contagious.
At the time, looking at all these mysterious glyphs, it looked like a lifetime of learning,
and, at that time, Ian did NOT have anything in a saleable format."

So, studying it, at that time, was virtually impossible.

She continued on this trip, and, went to explore the Kukulkan Pyramid in Mexico, on 6/15/1999,
and, there was an earthquake that hit, just as she got to the top of the pyramid,
which very likely shook, a little more curiosity, into her mix.

She was always curious, about discovering, why they built them, the way they did,
and, what type of messages, were there, just waiting to be discovered.

There was NO doubt, when in 2006, she returned to school, to obtain a doctorate in metaphysics,
that her thesis, is being built, on '13' keys, and, this pyramid, has those 13 aspects to it,
it you look at it very closely.

She also, crossed paths, with a man, named "Wandering Wolf",
and, although he didn't speak any English, or very much English,
she felt a certain sense, about this man, and, the others,
that had come to gather around him,
and, it is, very likely, she got bit, by the bug, that bites a lot of people,
who just can NOT stop, until they solve a puzzle.

Susan, is a Horologist / Master Watchmaker's daughter,
so, she has been raised, with clocks/and, time, all around her.

The biggest question, that loamed in her head, was this one,

"Is, there any danger, of losing track, of how, it is, that you keep track of your time" ???

The earth is currently, in a 12th Grand Cycle, and, on 16 DEC 2013, it ends.

Will this discovery, finding The End-Time, as, well, as The Start-Time

become, the single biggest discovery of The Past 13 Centuries ???

And, will this help the world, by having a 'real' answer, so people can find peace again ???

Will the discovery of this, help to unearth, the ancient secrets ???

And, will the gift of this discovery, give The Mayans, back their time ???

For, a very long time, men, women, and, even children, have searched for an answer.

Susan Lynne Serafina Schwenger, a student of The University of Metaphysics, a Doctoral Candidate, ABD,

a native of Canada, knows there must of been many reasons, she choose to be born in this life cycle,

on what The Native Americans, call Turtle Island.

She was conceived on 7lk, and, born 260 days later, on the 2nd 7lk ,

known, to The Mayan, as, The Day of The Wind God,

260 days, the gestation period of a human being in the womb of their mother,

is the same length of The Tzolkin Calender.

(13 x 20 = 260)

She was born in the city of Weston, a suburb of The City of Toronto, in Ontario, on 27th December 1958, at 15:45 PM EST,
and, with a birthday, that falls,
on The 1st day, of The Last 'dead' Days of The HAAB"
these symbols, are very significant to The Mayan.
She has always had interests, in numerology, along with astrology,
and, she has always known, she must of picked this date, for a good reason.
She says, "i know, they are NOT dead days,
these dates, these five days, are NOT 'dead' days,
The UAYEB/or VAYEB, marked a very important time of the year.
This date, was the time, of The Annual Medicine (s) Dance, also known to some, as The Sundance,
and, many tribes, had an assortment of different names, for this occasion.
The Mayan measure a day, from the time of the rising of the sun, or sunrise.
On the 27th, day of December, at sunrise,
The Mayan started a 4 day - 4 night - complete fast, no food, and, no water
27th, 28th, 29th, 30th, and, it lasted until the sun-set on the 30th,
the men gathered, the boys about to be men gathered,
and, the women, along with the children gathered,
At sun-set on the 30th, the whole tribe gathered,
to sit together, to drum, blow the flute/or wind instruments, to rattle, or to chant, sing, and, the fire-keepers, attended to the fire, putting on an artistic, and symbolic display of the art, of their sweeping,
and, they had an all night ceremony,
which lasted into the sunrise of the 31st of December.

Male elders, would handle, the ceremony, and, at the end, The Female Elder, would speak.

From sun-rise, on the 31st, til sun-set,
there was a great ceremony, and,a big feast.
Which signalled for them, The Start of The Next HAAB Year.

This correct calibration of The 1300 Kin/Days Cycle
has it flowing through 13 x 100 Kin (aka days)
and, it moves it through the sequence of

13/26/39/52/65 (5 cycles)

and, it pins 16 DEC 2013 - as, The End-Time of The 12th Grand Cycle

This is an end-time of cycle, NOT The End of The World, NOR The End of Time.

and, it crowns 17 DEC 2013, as, The Start-Time of The 13th Grand Cycle.

The UNKNOWN date/time/and, cycles have finally been found.

What The Mayan Elders, did NOT know

What The eXperts, did NOT know

was how to calculate, and, how to calibrate all the calendars

to arrive at the right end-time date !!!

65 AHAU, is the date, that calibrates, all the calenders.

The Start-Time of 27 May 2010,
to The End-Time of The 12th Cycle of 16 DEC 2013

has allowed The Pivotal Discovery of finding

The 5 Tzolkin Rounds of 1300 = 65 x 20 = 260 x5

the answer of Susan Lynne Serafina Schwenger

who has just presented her findings,

with the help of her friend, Tony Bermanseder

at the website at (see 260 Kin Thread)
or, at The eXchangerS - Susan~The eXchanger~13~MamaS~Kit'Si'NU

and, there is NO doubt,


THERE is NO doubt, Calleman - 26 AHAU, was on the right path

THERE is NO doubt, Jenkins - 47 AHAU, was on the right path

and, THERE is NO doubt, Dr. Jose Arguelles, Phd, of The Dreamspell

-knew there was something to pay attention to, related to "The Moon".

The last one, also, created a great awareness in the world ~ related to all things mayan, and, although, there are some, who say,
he did NOT operate in alignment with The Mayan Elders,
it does show, that he too, was on the right path, with the right intention,
of wanting to solve the puzzle, in his own way.

Many times, tribal people, do NOT let, outsiders in,
and, if you want to return this world, to a state of 'tribal being'
the time, to let many who are searching in, is NOW.

The ones, many of you, have been waiting for, have already returned.

NONE of these fine men, knew the right end time
of The 12th/or the right start time of The 13rd Grand Cycle,
however, they have done amazing, and, very good work.

"The Schwenger" - 65 AHUA of 16 DEC 2013
- End-Time of The 12th Mayan Grand Cycle"
is, The Needle in The Haystack :)
which connects, all the calendar cycles...
which likely, makes this the biggest discovery of the last thirteen centuries,
related to The Mayan Day - Record Keeping.

The Discovery occurred on 01-02 MAY 2010
~ in a Native American Ceremony

in Zephyr, Ontario, with a Group of 33, some elders, and, friends.

It brought forward, and, brought forth light encoded information
that triggered an awareness within Susan Lynne Serafina Schwenger
that was required, to allow her, to figure out,and, to do the final calculations.

She knows, that the collective conscious of the thirty-three people
who were in attendance, at this event, was part of what opened up the door,
to this mammoth discovery.

In ceremony, all sit together, and, within the ceremony,
all operate as, one with all.

In The Mayan tribes, as, well as with other tribes,

The Four Days/The Four Nights, along with The Over Night Ceremonies
are what brings forth, The High Spirit Medicine, or The High Spirit Medicines,
and, this shows up, only with a proper ceremony, and, within The Ceremony.

These spiritual medicine, or spiritual medicines
bring forth, the energy, that has been requested,
for The Alterings, The Changings, and, The Shiftings
that are desired, and, required to bring about
The Alternations, The Changes, and, The Shifts,
to create a community/or communities that live in sync.

The Teachings of The Grandfathers, and, The Grandmothers,
along with ancient sacred rituals, are NOT discussed, NOR are they filmed,
they fill a great need, within a community, and,
serve to develop a very close knit group of people,
who go forward from them, all looking in the same direction.

For Susan, her night, was a pivotal one, she healed a family issue,
she took down her shadow, and, she got information, that allowed her,
to carry that to a table, to do work on it, to solve it.

As Susan started to crunch all her data,
her good friend Tony, was there to check her data.

Just like 'good' magic, the answers magically started to appear.

All calculations through The Complete 9,360,000 Kin aka Day Cycle

now, have this series, fitting in perfectly, as, well as, eXactly to all cycles.

This discovery brings things, Full Circle, and, back into The Mayan Round,

The Original Mayan Round...

The Answers was sitting in '13' and, '1300' (13 x 100 Kin aka days)

where 65 x 20 = 1300 = 260 x 5.

The magic is always found, with The Root of '13',

The Mayan Tzolkin of 260 KiN has finally been calibrated to The Civil Calender


27 MAY 2010 TO 16 DEC 2013


is related to how The Mayan, originally keep track of their time,

iT has finally been found...

for all the research, etc., see this link on this website:

The Mayan Tzolkin of 260 Kin Calibrated to the Civil Calendar

The End-Time of The 12th Grand Cycle

- Tzolkin date for 12/16/2013:

Tone: 13 - Ascension, Sun Sign: SUN (AHAU)
( The end of THE 12th cycle)

Welcome to the next cycle - The New World, of Pacha iNTi
Start Date of The 13th Grand Cycle ~ Tzolkin date for 12/17/2013:

Tone: 1 - Unity, Sun Sign: Crocodile (IMIX)
( The start of a NEW WORLD & new cycle)

I am...Susan Lynne Schwenger aka Seraf'ina
who acknowledges the finding of these dates, on 01/02 MAY 2010
in the mode of Cosmic Healer in The Ancient Eagle
in the mode of Cosmic eXchanger in The Ancient Condor
in the mode of Cosmic Weaver in The Star Spider Women Clan
in the mode of Dragon Rider/Master in The Star Dragon/Serpent Men Clan
The SSS (57) of The Office of The Plumed Serpent ~ KuKulKan
The End Time of The 12th Grand Cycle ~ 16 DEC 2013
The Start Time of The 13th GRAND CYCLE ~ 17 DEC 2013

with deep gratitude, and, many thanks,

to my assistant, in this discovery

Tony "ABRAXASINUS" Bermanseder

We are two, of many, Maya Returned

104,000 - TO come back to
Tone: 1 - Unity, Sun Sign: Crocodile (IMIX)
( of cycle)

START OF THE 17TH GRAND CYCLE for 12/17/106013

and, there's a formula for it to:

26,000 x 4=104,000=80x1300

SO, iT DOES NOT LOOK like MAYAN TIME/OR EARTH TIME is ending, any time soon ;)

Brightest blessings of energy, light and love to all

"Be a piece of Piece"

Susan Lynne "Seraf'ina" Schwenger

the13thbridge (at)


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and, iT iS ALL about ALL of us,

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by supporting our work, all contributions of good energy,

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That list, is larger than we alone, can handle !!!

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Re: 2011 ? 2012 ? or 2013 ? Susan Lynne Seraf'ina Schwenger decodes The Calenders !!

opps i should figure out how to adjust,the topic, to just SERAFiNA ;) without the ' ' ' mark - is iT iN PoSSible to fiX this ?


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Re: 2011 ? 2012 ? or 2013 ? Susan Lynne Seraf'ina Schwenger decodes The Calenders !!

unfortunately; i don't know how to post the glyphs for the dates
which tell a major story, maybe, someone can help me with that ???
for 2 years, i ask for help on project avalon/and, project camelot - and, i got NONE, so i left that posting site
there, i was The eXchanger ;)
here, i operate, under who i am :)


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Re: 2011 ? 2012 ? or 2013 ? Susan Lynne Seraf'ina Schwenger decodes The Calenders !!

Be careful, i can read your minds LOL

is this lady, for real ???

THE ANSWER: yes, we are very real ;)

A word of advise to you

do NOT ever think,

you are an illusion

just look at the word ill_u_S_i_oN

within The Pivot of The NOW,

you are very, very REAL !!!


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Re: 2011 ? 2012 ? or 2013 ? Susan Lynne Seraf'ina Schwenger decodes The Calenders !!

I am not sure what you mean by glyph, if you point me to an example I will try my best to help



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Re: 2011 ? 2012 ? or 2013 ? Susan Lynne Seraf'ina Schwenger decodes The Calenders !!

it's simple; there are 13 g x 20 g = 260 combos / but, only '33' different glyphs - master number
and, it repeats that is the "T" calender
ie 1-1, 1-2, ...1-20
then, switches to 2-1, 2-2, up to ...2-20
then switches to 3-1, 2-2 , up to ...3-20
(if you think of it, as a left side/and, a right side
left side, runs thru 1 - 1 to 20
and, moves thru 2 - 1 to 20
and, moves thru 3-1 to 20, 4-1to 20 ... 13 - 1-20
so; there are 260 combinations
and, then it repeats itself


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Re: 2011 ? 2012 ? or 2013 ? Susan Lynne Seraf'ina Schwenger decodes The Calenders !!

if someone transported the thread 260 kin from here
you would see, all our decodings , etc.,
along with - the reference also the scriptures, etc.,
we are limited, on money/and, on time
we need help ;)


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Re: 2011 ? 2012 ? or 2013 ? Susan Lynne Seraf'ina Schwenger decodes The Calenders !!

OK I get it now, thank you :)


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Re: 2011 ? 2012 ? or 2013 ? Susan Lynne Seraf'ina Schwenger decodes The Calenders !!

Biggest discovery in 13 centuries ,
Susan Lynne "Serafina" SCHWENGER aka Seraf'ina
discovers mayan end time of 12th, start of 13th grand cycle 17 DEC 2013

Elders of Thuban - Forum Categories

Susan's discovery relates to a greater Mayan calendar synchronized to Tzolkin of 260 day counts
and the Calendar Round of the Haab of 365 days synchronized to the Tzolkin.

These are the lowest number of days, which factor both 260 and 365
and this is the number 18,980 or just under 52 Gregorian (Civil) years
and exactly 52 Haab or Mayan years.

These 52 years so began 52=13x4 Haab before December 16th, 2013
or precisely 73 Tzolkins before December 16th, 2013; which is a 13 Ahau date as

The significance so becomes the matching of two 13 Ahau Dates
in the following details of subtracting 52 Haab, that is a Full Calendar Round of 18,980 Kin
from the alignment with the 45 Full Moons and the 44 New Moons of the 1300 Kin
discovered by Serafina from May 27th, 2010 to December 17th, 2013
(both Full Moons in Scorpio and Gemini respectively as 1301 Kin/Days).

18,980 Kin/Days=52 Haab=14,400+4580=2x7200+229x20=2x7200+12x360+1 Tzolkin=2 Katun+12 Tun+1 Tzolkin 52 Haab=18,980 Kin=2 Katun + 13 Tun - 100 Kin=2 Katun + 12 Tun - 1 Tzolkin (260 days) - - 260 = - + 100 = - + =(13-1).(19-2).(19+1-12).0.0 + = = December 29th, 1961=13 Ahau 18 Mac

The Calibration for All possible Calendars so assumes the form of adding
a Cosmic Calendar Round in 360 Degrees to the Birthday date of = December 21st, 2012
As this date then completes the final Haab in the final Long Count of the last of 13 Baktuns
and the 65th of the 'precessional' baktun/kin count;
the Mayan End date indeed signifies the 'End of Time' as previously known.

All calendars, including the native-indigenous ones
and the time-click-event duration mechanical ones
(Scientific from Gregorian-Civil and Julian from solar-lunar season time keepings)
become reset in the Circularization of Linear 'ticking clocks' of any kind, metaphysical, calculative-mechanical or phenomenal.

This process then is calibrated to define NOW-Time as the Instanton of Creation
and the birth of spacetimed and metric cosmologies via the wormhole parameter
embodied in the logistical statement E*e*=1 for wormhole frequency f*=3,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 Hertz* or
(inverted cosmic seconds - independent from any measurement system).

September 18th, 1618 = = 5 Ahau 13 Zotz

November 1st, 1953 = = 10 Ahau 18 Yax

September 20th, 1961 = = 4 Ahau 18 Mol

October 10th, 1961 = = 11 Ahau 18 Chuen

October 30th, 1961 = = 5 Ahau 18 Yax

November 19th, 1961 = = 12 Ahau 18 Zac

December 9th, 1961 = = 6 Ahau 18 Mac

December 29th, 1961 = = 13 Ahau 18 Mac

July 19th, 1973 = = 8 Ahau 18 Cec

April 5th, 1993 = = 6 Ahau 3 Vayeb

December 21st, 2012 = = 4 Ahau 3 Kankin

December 16th, 2013 = = 13 Ahau 18 Mac

The transformation of a type of cosmic civilisation like that of the 'old humanity' residing
on planet earth into a evolved cosmic civilisation,
say a 'new humanity' inhabiting a terraformed planet earth requires
a period of transitional evolutionary adaptation.

This can be compared to the metamorphosis of the butterfly genus/family;
order lepidoptera; class insecta; phylum arthropoda; kingdom animalia
from the four stages of embryo-larvae-pupa-imago
from the caterpillar-larvae stage into the butterfly-imago stage
via the transit stage of the pupa-chrysalis ergo the cocoonisation of the caterpillar insectoid.
In the form of the genus homo, the subspecies homo sapiens sapiens
can be modelled to have entered the embryonic stage with the advent of Cro Magnon Man
so 26,000 (civil) years ago.

Using 400 year intervals of 146,097 days under utility of a a certain calendrical counting of time ;
the embryonic conception can be 'dated' to an extrapolated calendrical date
of Saturday, 21February 23,615BC-G
and precisely 9,360,008 days
(and a precessional daycount as 25,626.83149 Gregorian years)
from Friday,21December2012AD in a weekcount of 1,337,144.

The Julian daycount began on January 1st 4713 BC-Julian
and the Gregorian daycount of 365.2425 days per year commenced on October 5th, 1582,
replacing the Julian year of 365.25 days. A Mean Tropical Year has 365.24219 days
and where a mean solar day has precisely 24x3600=86,400 SI seconds.

The Tropical Year is referential to the seasons (equinoxes and solstices)
and differs from the star-referential Sidereal Year in the day addendum 1/26000 or 1.0000385
of so 1225 seconds (20.41 minutes) per year and which accumulate to about 368.5 mean days (and so about a year) per precessional cycle.

Due to orbital- and rotational changes and precession a year is decreasing
at the present astronomical configuration by about 5 milliseconds/year or
130 seconds or so 2 minutes in
a 26,000 precessional cycle.

The Gregorian year of 365.2425 days differs from the tropical year of 365.24219 days
and so the Gregorian calendar will accumulate an error of about 0.00031x26,000~8.1 days per precessional cycle.

To account for this, a 'creation-initialisation week of 8 days' is added to the 64 cycles in 9792+8=9,800=7x1,400=7x7x200=8x52x72=2(22x52x72)=2x702
in the 13x5x144,000=9,360,000 (Mayan) day-kin count, which so begins on the superposed and extrapolated Gregorian Day (G)

Day#-7=Saturday,21February 23,615BC-G and becomes mirrored in the 7th day

Day#7=Saturday,07March23,615BC-G for the Conception of the human Embryo
to be born from its Chrysalis 64 cycles later.

The first cycle is initiated on Day#9,792=Friday,21December23,589BC-G
and the last and 64th cycle is initiated on Day#9,213,903=Friday,21December1612AD-Gregorian
and ends precisely 146,097 days or 400 Gregorian years later on Friday, 21December2012AD to commence a now precessional count in the birth of the Imago of the ancient human Embryo
established by the beginning of the first cycle.

The 12th Grand Cycle end time 16 DEC 2013

The 13th Grand Cycle start time 17 DEC 2013

In the Honour and Love of the DragonHeart Tonyblue and
Susan Serafina Schwenger

100th Monkey

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Wow Serafina, i have never seen 2012 date calculated in such a way, great job! Have you got any new information? and if so how has it effected the calculated dates, or are they still the same?

Thank you the great info :)